It seems it has been a while since I’ve posted the logs of the previous meetings but I think I will now catch up and post them all in here.
Questions in these meetings tend to be quite similar: spells missing which are referenced in quests, difficulty of training and other similar things (which are being repeated most time by the same people). So, well…, enjoy reading them. I hope I didn’t lose some of those.
The post is quite long as it’s various meet the devs events together.
dom 17-apr-2011 22:05:46 Weltall
(22:05:46) Talad dice: big room!
(22:06:07) Talad dice: many thanks for joining!
(22:06:11) Talad dice: remember these days!
(22:06:23) Talad dice: because when we will have thousands of players this will not be possible anymore
(22:06:34) Talad dice: unless using the arena!
(22:06:46) Minks sighs “this map is so much nicer that our guildhouse”
(22:06:53) Talad dice: we also have a great representation from the devs!
(22:06:54) Vaneal dice: I look foward to the day we have taht many players
(22:07:07) Talad dice: ok, let me do a quick intro to the meeting, then we present the devs
(22:07:17) Talad dice: this meeting is made for you
(22:07:25) Talad dice: and on the idea of a player
(22:07:34) Talad dice: to get more information on what we are working on
(22:07:44) Talad dice: and to ask questions or give ideas
(22:08:01) Talad dice: you can ask questions on the game, it’s future, current developments, on the devs or else
(22:08:15) Talad dice: try to avoid if you can very specific questions on your char, or some bugs you experienced
(22:08:23) Talad dice: ok
(22:08:38) Talad dice: will be great if each developer can give a short introduction of himself
(22:08:48) Talad dice: name, country, and what he does in ps
(22:08:54) Talad dice: magodra can you start?
(22:09:20) Magodra dice: Hi am Anders, from Norway. Working on npcclient.
(22:09:34) Talad dice: magodra is an historical member of PlaneShift
(22:09:40) Talad dice: has been with us since the beginning
(22:09:46) Talad dice: and has greatly expanded the NPCclient
(22:09:48) Minks dice: wow
(22:09:55) Talad dice: and implemented tribes
(22:10:07) Talad dice: he has been away for some time, now he is back!
(22:10:19) Talad dice: Arcoo can you introduce yourself?
(22:10:46) Arcoo dice: Hello, I am Arco from the Netherlands. Doing 2d/3d stuff in Planeshift.
(22:11:02) Talad dice: Arco is working on new caves system
(22:11:07) Perlan dice: sorry
(22:11:10) Troyyer dice: arg
(22:11:19) Menille dice: tsk tsk
(22:11:24) Famiel dice: this is awsome
(22:11:26) Talad dice: Weltall can you introduce yourself?
(22:11:28) Arcoo dice: uh, no fear? :p
(22:11:37) Perlan dice: guild motto, sorry
(22:11:46) Weltall dice: Stefano from italy i manage the servers and various parts of the engine
(22:11:57) Perlan dice: Italy also ok!!!!
(22:12:02) Perlan dice: [kidding]
(22:12:04) Talad dice: weltall has been a pillar of our engine team in the last years
(22:12:07) Minks dice: excep Milano!
(22:12:12) Talad dice: he did a lot
(22:12:24) Perlan dice: [i will try to not make any more jokes]
(22:12:31) Talad dice: tuux can you introduce yourself?
(22:12:33) Tuux dice: I’m Tuux from France , i working on Audio team and on Magic spell system
(22:12:49) Talad dice: Tuux has created many of the new spell effects
(22:12:55) Talad dice: and fixed many many bugs
(22:12:56) Resildren claps for Tuxx
(22:13:11) Resildren dice: *Tuux
(22:13:13) Menille cheers for Tuux
(22:13:17) Talad dice: I’m Luca from Italy, founder of the game. I do a bit of everything including art and setting
(22:13:32) Resildren yells whoot
(22:13:50) Talad dice: ok, the best way to ask questions in to form a queue here
(22:13:59) Talad dice: and we go one by one
(22:14:07) Talad dice: this avoids confusion
(22:14:25) Talad dice: thanks
(22:14:42) Talad dice: ok
(22:14:48) Talad dice: Hi Hipie
(22:14:53) Hipie dice: Is there any plans to implement the sarraghi pack? I heard rumors they had been implemented for NPCs only.
(22:15:16) Perlan dice: the sarraghi pack… ?
(22:15:19) Troyyer dice: [crashing]
(22:15:26) Hipie dice: yeah?
(22:15:31) Talad dice: mmm… at the moment enki has quite some skins
(22:15:36) Perlan looks to the devs
(22:16:04) Troyyer dice: [think its caused by magic]
(22:16:14) Hipie dice: I noticed a new one on bjorid, and some guy in the Dsar Kore.
(22:16:38) Hipie dice: so the answer is maybe?
(22:16:38) Perlan dice: [troym, there is no magic in here ATM]
(22:16:46) Weltall dice: i don’t think there are changes there planned anytime soon
(22:16:47) Talad dice: I’m just checking the docs
(22:16:57) Talad dice: the sarraghi is the one which is lion-like
(22:17:00) Weltall dice: it was marked as npc talad you wanted it so
(22:17:07) Talad dice: light brown
(22:17:10) Weltall dice: already 4 years ago
(22:17:14) Hipie dice: so players aren’t going to get it?
(22:17:27) Talad dice: well, we didn’t look at that since some time
(22:17:35) Talad dice: we can revisit it and ensure all packs are covered
(22:17:35) Weltall dice: there are plenty of enki skins yet
(22:17:40) Talad dice: sounds a goof idea
(22:17:45) Talad dice: *good
(22:17:47) Perlan dice: goof, lol
(22:17:52) Hipie dice: okay.
(22:17:54) Hipie dice: thanks.
(22:17:55) Talad dice: d and f so close
(22:18:06) Perlan dice: goof made it sound so different, lol
(22:18:07) Talad dice: I will check again after the meeting and see what we have
(22:18:22) Talad dice: I know there is one NPC only skin, but the reason was mainly the special clothes
(22:18:26) Vaneal dice: Peraln try to be construtive and stop the dumb coments
(22:18:29) Hipie dice: Now the “men” can go, perlan.
(22:18:37) Weltall dice: it’s that one talad
(22:18:44) Talad dice: Hi perlan
(22:18:48) Perlan dice: lady, sires
(22:19:05) Perlan dice: i have thought of some feature requests
(22:19:13) Hipie dice: if you are going to be so immature to put labels on me because I’m younger than you.
(22:19:19) Perlan dice: the first one being this
(22:19:32) Talad dice: weltall I checked now and the npc1 skin is white
(22:19:43) Perlan dice: melters, and smiths know the transfer to inventory button
(22:19:49) Perlan dice: in the “smallinv”
(22:19:50) Weltall dice: and with special clothing
(22:20:27) Perlan dice: i was thinking it would be more comfortable for smiths if there was also a transfer to container button
(22:20:30) Talad dice: Perlan : you mean the smaller inv window, ok.
(22:20:51) Perlan dice: so they would be able to transfer ores to the furnace, etc
(22:21:00) Talad dice: mmm… so it trasfers to the container selected?
(22:21:20) Perlan dice: yes, like the reverse of the transfer to inventory button
(22:21:21) Hipie dice: I’d have to second that, a good idea for cooks two?
(22:21:33) Weltall dice: except how do you pick them
(22:21:39) Perlan dice: that would work for cooks too, hipie
(22:21:39) Weltall dice: don’t expect such a thing anytime soon sorry
(22:21:57) Weltall dice: except if you’ve a simple idea which works with the current system
(22:22:05) Perlan dice: same as you drop stuff on the transfer to inventory button, weltall
(22:22:08) Talad dice: clicking on the item, then the icon, seems pretty similar to clicking on the item then dropping on furnace
(22:22:37) Weltall dice: ah well isn’t it the same as the furnace
(22:22:39) Perlan dice: what talad said
(22:22:43) Talad dice: I’m not sure we are going to so that soon, but anyway thanks for the idea.
(22:22:44) Weltall dice: it’s actually more difficult to hit
(22:23:11) Weltall dice: anyway the issue remain it would add a more strain on an issue with containers being unable to handle more than one open
(22:23:15) Perlan dice: ok, thank you for your time
(22:23:27) Talad dice: before the next question
(22:23:35) Talad dice: I would like to ask nynn to present himself
(22:23:39) Talad dice: he joined after we started
(22:23:43) Talad dice: and presentation were made already
(22:23:56) Talad dice: nynn can you say your name, country and what you do in OS?
(22:23:56) Famiel dice: irec are you next?
(22:23:57) Talad dice: PS
(22:24:13) Nynn dice: of course
(22:24:44) Irec dice: go ahead famiel
(22:24:50) Famiel dice: thanks
(22:24:59) Nynn dice: Nynn aka Computer Graphist from France
(22:25:19) Talad dice: nynn has designed many of the robes and textures
(22:25:25) Nynn dice: And without any doubt i do Art for PS
(22:25:28) Menille dice: Oh
(22:25:36) Nynn dice: at less 3 are wear here
(22:25:58) Mordaan gives a respectful nod to Nynn
(22:26:02) Sasigher dice: well, i’m wearing my klyros robe too
(22:26:09) Talad dice: hi Mrokii
(22:26:12) Minks smacks her head
(22:26:14) Talad dice: please proceed with your question
(22:26:15) Mrokii dice: hello Talad
(22:26:34) Mrokii dice: I don’t have a question but some suggestions for more individualization between players and more cooperation.
(22:27:00) Mrokii dice: Three thing which are all interconnected, but I will present them in short form, so not too much time is wasted.
(22:27:08) Talad dice: ok
(22:27:31) Mrokii dice: First, I would like to see more restrictions regarding what players can train, in the same way they seem to be implemented for magic now.
(22:28:09) Talad dice: you mean having progression stop people from maxing out everything
(22:28:10) Mrokii dice: As an example: a professional painter would most probably not be a professional smit at the same time, because these things need different abilities.
(22:28:16) Mrokii dice: yep
(22:28:28) Mrokii dice: Some professions should be mutual exclusive to some degree.
(22:28:40) Talad dice: we are slowly going into that direction, even if we like to leave possibilities open to players
(22:28:54) Talad dice: we don’t want to go back to the “classes”
(22:28:59) Talad dice: like wizard, fighter, …
(22:29:09) Minks nods emphatically
(22:29:10) Talad dice: but some specialization is nice I agree
(22:29:11) Perlan dice: i like that about PS
(22:29:16) Vaneal dice: good to hear
(22:29:17) Talad dice: and fosters players interaction
(22:29:19) Perlan dice: no class restriction
(22:29:21) Hipie dice: may I say something?
(22:29:22) Mrokii dice: indeed.
(22:29:27) Irec dice: Agreed perlan
(22:29:33) Weltall dice: yeah and i don’t like artificial limits of any nature
(22:29:35) Talad dice: it’s a BIG topic anyway
(22:29:38) Hipie dice: what if there was class restrictions but changable?
(22:29:50) Hipie dice: so you could change your lifestyle, but it would be a lot of work.
(22:29:55) Talad dice: my idea is just to make it hard, not impossible
(22:29:58) Mrokii dice: That would be my next idea
(22:30:05) Talad dice: meaning that you will take already quite some time to master one
(22:30:08) Mrokii dice: kind of at least.
(22:30:26) Mrokii dice: Can I go on?
(22:30:41) Talad dice: for the ways for example the crystal mages do not want withing their ranks a very high dark mage
(22:30:50) Gavill apologizes for standing in the middle of room
(22:31:11) Talad dice: so there can be some setting behind which gives the right direction
(22:31:32) Minks dice: The training restiction could be managed through the factions, no?
(22:31:53) Talad dice: yes, factions will ask you to be faithful to them
(22:32:05) Talad dice: but we are not sure yet if we want to force that or not
(22:32:20) Talad dice: probably will just stay as strong suggestion
(22:32:32) Talad dice: and some NPCs may start to look suspisciusly at you
(22:32:36) Minks dice: If you are an enemy, training could be slow and expensive
(22:32:40) Talad dice: if you are affiliated with too many guilds
(22:32:44) Talad dice: correct
(22:32:48) Hipie dice: People should be able to change their chars tunes, as long as it’s IC.
(22:32:54) Talad dice: that’s what we want to do directionally
(22:33:11) Talad dice: allowing people to have better and nicer progression into one faction
(22:33:23) Talad dice: and so maybe they will not want to do all the others
(22:33:44) Talad dice: I think this completes your question Mrokii
(22:33:49) Sasigher dice: that will change the face of PS completely
(22:33:49) Vaneal dice: that is going to be hard to unlock quests taht you need and still stay the faction you want to be
(22:34:00) Mrokii dice: Yes, but there is more, as I said.
(22:34:18) Talad dice: well, for being fair to others you next should go in queue
(22:34:25) Mrokii dice: okay
(22:34:26) Hipie dice: there should always be room to completely reverse a char in my opinion
(22:34:26) Talad dice: one question at a time
(22:34:47) Famiel dice: hey everyone
(22:34:50) Hipie dice: my chars a warrior; I’m thinking he may put down his sword sometime.
(22:35:03) Famiel dice: i have one quick question i would like to ask you
(22:35:04) Talad dice: hey Famiel
(22:35:10) Zarre dice: Hello Famiel
(22:35:15) Famiel smiles “Talad”
(22:35:30) Famiel dice: not sure how to ask this but… here it goes
(22:35:47) Talad dice: words are a good start
(22:35:55) Famiel dice: sorry one second
(22:36:46) Famiel dice: I was wondering if there could be a implimented damage for thins like a rock pick or a rolling pin, also maybe a name change for melee to something like “hand-to hand”
(22:37:19) Weltall dice: there will be with time
(22:37:24) Talad dice: mmm
(22:37:26) Weltall dice: after those items will be craftable
(22:37:34) Talad dice: you mean a rock pick is not usable as weapon?
(22:37:49) Weltall dice: no he means by using it you damage it
(22:37:56) Hipie dice: I thought it counted as degraded melee
(22:38:00) Famiel dice: umm.. im unsure, i think it takes away from the hand you have it in
(22:38:15) Hipie dice: I have one on me, want me to test it?
(22:38:23) Talad dice: do you want it to degrade with usage?
(22:38:27) Weltall dice: you mean fighting with them?
(22:38:34) Famiel dice: yes
(22:38:49) Hipie dice: I can see if it works.
(22:38:57) Talad dice: yes to fighting or to crafting?
(22:39:04) Chessire dice: i think he means sight… kitchen knifes don’t work as weapons either
(22:39:08) Chessire dice: fight
(22:39:18) Famiel dice: mostly fighting… but crafting would be another thing
(22:39:32) Famiel dice: more of tools as wepons
(22:39:33) Perlan dice: both would be nice
(22:39:37) Talad dice: will be good if you can post on the bugtracker a list of items you saw not working
(22:39:40) Talad dice: in combat
(22:39:47) Talad dice: and we can definitely fix those
(22:39:49) Perlan dice: i think i changed my next question, lol
(22:40:13) Famiel dice: ok thank you guys
(22:40:19) Talad dice: you’re welcome
(22:40:39) Talad dice: Hi Irec
(22:41:04) Irec dice: Just a suggestion.mobs should return to their “home” after a certain amont of time
(22:41:17) Irec dice: simple as that
(22:41:22) Talad dice: magodra that’s yours
(22:41:49) Magodra dice: That is a good idee, think it is within the capability of the engine allread.
(22:42:23) Irec dice: nice… thanks.
(22:42:26) Magodra dice: Thanks for the input.
(22:42:32) Hipie dice: would be nice
(22:42:45) Hipie dice: seeing as people can’t lead them away and then die.
(22:42:56) Talad dice: Hi Perlan
(22:43:41) Perlan dice: i think i speak for most of the society of players around you with this question: when do you think more craftable items like armor will be implemented?
(22:44:21) Talad dice: the engine is capable of doing that
(22:44:29) Weltall dice: like all the previous times it needs work to do that
(22:44:36) Talad dice: it’s mainly a matter of men power in creating the data
(22:44:55) Weltall dice: someone has to fill the tables how the sw people know
(22:44:58) Talad dice: I know the skunkwork team is working on creating the data for leatherworking
(22:45:05) Perlan dice: i just present you the words and desires on the streets
(22:45:05) Zarre whispers “men” power?
(22:45:06) Minks nods
(22:45:23) Talad dice: Zarre yes, not one
(22:45:25) Weltall dice: yes zarre
(22:45:34) Minks dice: Lots of men
(22:45:56) Irec dice: (lol)
(22:45:56) Talad dice: it’s a long process, but I guess we could release more info to the players on how to populate those tables
(22:45:57) Zarre nods trying not to smile
(22:46:14) Talad dice: I think the best is to connect with the skunkwork project
(22:46:15) Perlan dice: alright, i understand what you said, but does that imply you will be working on it?
(22:46:16) Sasigher dice: zarre, women are not allowed in PS team *faints*
(22:46:19) Talad dice: and add other armors
(22:46:31) Weltall dice: it’s obvious it will be worked on
(22:46:34) Talad dice: at the moment unfortunately the rules team is fully busy with improving NPC paths
(22:46:58) Perlan dice: alright, thank you, weltall
(22:47:04) Talad dice: Sasigher : we had and we have women.
(22:47:14) Mrokii dice: hello again.
(22:47:16) Weltall dice: but as i’ve said all the previous times we don’t have the manpower to work on it right now if you want to speed it up help the sw project
(22:47:19) Minks dice: Join Skunkworsk!
(22:47:27) Minks dice: The channel is empty all the time
(22:47:33) Talad dice: hi Mrokii
(22:47:40) Lilura dice: im there all the time Minks =P
(22:47:49) Mrokii dice: okay, this is related to more specialization.
(22:47:56) Sasigher dice: i was just kidding talad
(22:48:00) Mrokii dice: Individualisation I mean.,
(22:48:08) Weltall dice: you are not lilura that’s why my bouncer goes crazy during the night
(22:48:23) Mrokii dice: Should you implement some restrictions on what players can or can not train, there should be a way for players to change their mind, so to say.
(22:48:46) Talad dice: I think we discussed this a bit today
(22:48:47) Hipie dice: we already touched out that I thought.
(22:48:53) Mrokii dice: I mean, a lot of the long time players have maxed out a lot of abilities, so they may have a problem when restrictions are implementet.
(22:49:09) Talad dice: basically allowing people to specialize better in one area, with quests and special items
(22:49:10) Vaneal dice: yeah
(22:49:19) Mrokii dice: One idea I had was that there could be some magician NPCs who could provide some kind of cleaning process.
(22:49:27) Talad dice: I would like also to have special places accessible to high ranked people
(22:49:35) Mrokii dice: Say, you go there and get your mind cleaned from a certain ability, for money.
(22:49:40) Hipie dice: aren’t there already two?
(22:49:55) Hipie dice: winch and a temple?
(22:50:01) Talad dice: Mrokii : who would want his mind cleaned ? sounds an odd idea
(22:50:18) Hipie dice: she’s saying that could be a IC way for skills refunding
(22:50:21) Talad dice: I think you could detach officially from a faction in other ways
(22:50:22) Mrokii dice: Talad It is all related to a possible restriction of the amount of abilities one could train.
(22:50:36) Talad dice: like giving back special items , badges, and access to inner areas
(22:50:37) Mrokii dice: Not refunding. It’s like a service a magician would provide.
(22:50:40) Hipie dice: as in you lose the skills, you get back pp and tria if I’m right?
(22:50:55) Talad dice: if you do that people will not trust you
(22:50:58) Mrokii dice: nope, not at all. People would have to pay for this service.
(22:51:00) Talad dice: and they will not allow to train anyway
(22:51:20) Talad dice: will you listen to a master dark way mage saying he cleaned his mind and he wants to be crystal now?
(22:51:25) Mrokii dice: But that is the point. Let’s say, one player changes their mind and wants to change their magic way for example.
(22:51:34) Perlan scratches his skin and thinks: “yes, male Dermorians look best in robes”
(22:51:45) Mrokii dice: Sure I would, if he would prove me that he cleaned himself.
(22:51:50) Talad dice: Mrokii : I think the player can still do it
(22:51:51) Tuux dice: never dark is dark
(22:51:57) Talad dice: but it will take time
(22:51:57) Hipie dice: My character sure wouldn’t.
(22:52:13) Talad dice: I would be already happy to have a good progression in all factions
(22:52:25) Talad dice: and we can discuss later on what to do if people do all
(22:52:32) Talad dice: atm we lack a good progression
(22:52:41) Talad dice: it’s getting better with the chained quests and factions, but still needs work
(22:52:41) Mrokii dice: AS I said, it’s only an idea.
(22:52:46) Mrokii dice: And I wanted to let you know.
(22:52:47) Talad dice: and should become longer
(22:52:52) Hipie dice: a good example of this inmy opinion is gartheiz and ikon supposedly changing their ways. nobody believes them.
(22:52:54) Talad dice: much much much longer
(22:53:19) Mrokii dice: Hipie But that means that you won’t believe that any people can change.
(22:53:24) Talad dice: ok, we will think to something
(22:53:28) Mrokii dice: okay.
(22:53:33) Talad dice: I undertsand we have to better define the specialization
(22:53:39) Hipie dice: not really
(22:53:41) Mrokii dice: thanks for listening.
(22:53:43) Talad dice: so chars are more complementary to each other
(22:53:54) Talad dice: and not solo players
(22:54:02) Hipie dice: reason people don’t believe it was because it happened out of the blue.
(22:54:20) Perlan dice: i think this is linked to class restriction or not
(22:54:26) Mrokii dice: With an RP-background, Hipie
(22:54:34) Mrokii dice: yes it is, Perlan
(22:54:34) Talad dice: ok, Mrokii , please make space for the next one
(22:54:52) Talad dice: HI Voron
(22:54:59) Voron dice: Hello Talad
(22:55:02) Hipie dice: all my char saw was one day gartheiz being bad, ikon being bad, next they ar both turned around pretending to be good.
(22:55:29) Chessire dice: (these are still bad )
(22:55:31) Voron dice: I have two questions for the dev team.
(22:56:12) Talad dice: let’s start with one
(22:56:20) Voron dice: Ah
(22:56:25) Voron dice: Sure
(22:57:03) Voron dice: Are there any plans regarding the release of more setting information in the wiki or other OOC sources?
(22:57:11) Voron dice: *official OOC sources
(22:57:11) Minks dice: [we have 106 chars online ]
(22:57:18) Talad dice: yes there are
(22:57:23) Mrokii dice: Hipie, that is exactly what religions do, for example. People can be converted in real life as well.
(22:57:24) Weltall dice: yes there is a plan to update the site as a start
(22:57:26) Talad dice: I’ve been willing to do that
(22:57:31) Weltall dice: just it needs to beb added
(22:57:39) Weltall dice: again time
(22:57:40) Talad dice: like histories of races
(22:57:55) Talad dice: we got 2 new setting prospects just this week
(22:58:03) Talad dice: I hope they can help there
(22:58:11) Talad dice: is there anything in particular you would like to see?
(22:58:15) Talad dice: first
(22:58:50) Hipie would like to see enki stuff.
(22:58:52) Voron dice: It would be nice to update the general informations regarding the settings, I think.
(22:59:02) Talad dice: btw if it’s in wiki should be in game with books as well, this will enrich the libraries.
(22:59:16) Talad dice: we actually planned to have a race based series of quests
(22:59:24) Talad dice: which guide you through learning more about each race
(22:59:37) Talad dice: and at the end you could bind your soul to the racial city
(22:59:47) Talad dice: so when you are returning from the death realm you will go there
(22:59:53) Talad dice: that was just an idea, but I still think it’s nice
(22:59:56) Perlan dice: if i may?
(22:59:59) Hipie dice: I agree.
(23:00:01) Vaneal dice: I like it
(23:00:02) Voron dice: Sounds like a great idea, Talad.
(23:00:09) Talad dice: that series of quests will be one for each race
(23:00:11) Hipie dice: I miss the enki spawn in oja.
(23:00:12) Perlan dice: that would also restrict players
(23:00:27) Perlan dice: it’s still the same choice
(23:00:27) Talad dice: well, it’s just history, so I think you can do them all
(23:00:41) Talad dice: what ever is your race
(23:00:54) Talad dice: like I see Jayose going and doing them all
(23:01:03) Perlan dice: it’s still the same choice, have restrictions, of class, of race, of something else… or not
(23:01:06) Voron dice: ;D
(23:01:24) Voron dice: Would mean a lot of walks for Jayose.
(23:01:25) Talad dice: ok, thanks
(23:01:29) Perlan dice: i like PS for the no class restrictions
(23:01:30) Voron dice: Thanks, that would be all.
(23:01:36) Talad dice: we have to close the meeting pretty soon
(23:01:36) Weltall dice: same perlan
(23:01:43) Talad dice: it’s scheduled for 1 hour
(23:01:45) Perlan dice: and i believe i heared more ppl say that
(23:01:52) Hipie dice: ah, okay.
(23:02:01) Talad dice: ok, last 4 questions
(23:02:06) Talad dice: perlan you are last one
(23:02:22) Talad dice: go on Hipie
(23:02:33) Hipie dice: in the futures, could we possibly see player-trainers?
(23:02:53) Hipie dice: as in if you were significantly more experienced, you could teach at your tria price others.
(23:03:11) Telios dice: nice one
(23:03:15) Talad dice: anyone wants to give an answer to that?
(23:03:15) Hipie dice: so you could train your guildmates for little, and your enemies for soo much they’d go elsewhere?
(23:03:26) Weltall dice: your tria price is indeed an issue from a balance pov while the idea was given since a long while and is nice there are many fallbacks to account for
(23:03:32) Hipie dice: and credit should go to many people for it.
(23:03:47) Hipie dice: Mwe mentioend this recently, for example.
(23:03:55) Hipie dice: it’s beena round awhile.
(23:04:24) Weltall dice: the problem is that with that description t’s higly exploitable
(23:04:31) Hipie dice: true
(23:04:34) Vaneal dice: yeah, some people would train for almost no price if the training player gave the tria back
(23:04:47) Talad dice: I think it’s a nice idea, but we should establish some boundaries
(23:04:55) Hipie dice: yeah…
(23:04:55) Talad dice: to avoid people getting training for free all the time
(23:05:14) Talad dice: like having a bot from a player training for half the price of NPCs
(23:05:16) Hipie dice: and so you can’t train a alt on another account?
(23:05:19) Talad dice: and this player becoming rich
(23:05:34) Hipie dice: yeah….
(23:05:39) Talad dice: we will think to it, but I like players interaction
(23:05:48) Talad dice: so can be done somehow
(23:05:55) Talad dice: Irec please proceed
(23:05:58) Irec dice: I (we) would like some more powerful mobs so that grouphunting with other powerful players is more fun. At the moment we don’t go hunting, we go slaughtering
(23:06:21) Resildren agrees
(23:06:26) Weltall dice: i stand with the answer i gave on the forums
(23:06:27) Weltall dice:
(23:06:28) Vaneal dice: Very true Irec
(23:06:48) Hipie dice: I heard some people get 3 pps from the strongest mobs.
(23:06:57) Hipie dice: which they can now onehit,
(23:07:00) Perlan dice: i think that is still linked to the question of class restrictions, or not
(23:07:10) Talad dice: isn’t a maulbernaut strong enough?
(23:07:30) Irec dice: one or two hits and they are down
(23:07:32) Hipie dice: I heard with mx stas you can one hit it.
(23:07:34) Minks dice: EEk!
(23:07:38) Mordaan chuckles
(23:07:39) Menille dice: haahaaaaa
(23:07:43) Weltall dice: the problem is this if we make mobs stronger people complain if we make mobs les stronger people complain so what shal we do?
(23:07:45) Chessire dice: eh xD
(23:07:46) Vaneal dice: maulbers are not hard at all
(23:07:51) Perlan considers drawaing his blades
(23:08:00) Perlan considers drawing his blades
(23:08:03) Talad dice: mmm
(23:08:05) Talad dice: we have to check that
(23:08:14) Talad dice: I thought they were strong enough
(23:08:15) Irec dice: hehe =)
(23:08:17) Resildren dice: more agro
(23:08:28) Chessire dice: Talad’s voice became deeper suddently…
(23:08:30) Talad dice: I will speak to them
(23:08:36) Minks dice: I can’t even kill a Trepor!
(23:08:43) Perlan dice: how fast they grow up, hehe
(23:08:46) Irec dice: very good =D
(23:08:49) Talad dice: or having GM driven events with a mob at 100k HP
(23:08:50) Famiel dice: -.-
(23:08:58) Resildren dice: yeaaa
(23:09:03) Resildren grins
(23:09:06) Talad dice: sarva , take a note
(23:09:17) Voron dice: Does the engine support adjusting a mob’s stats?
(23:09:24) Tuux dice: i think, that have to see with the game play , about how kill a mob
(23:09:42) Voron dice: As in, randomized strong mobs
(23:09:42) Resildren dice: and more agro
(23:09:46) Perlan thinks: “Krans do not look that large anymore”
(23:10:01) Weltall dice: cleanly no voron
(23:10:10) Talad dice: hi Sasigher
(23:10:12) Talad dice: please proceed
(23:10:14) Sasigher dice: heya
(23:10:20) Voron dice: I see, Weltall
(23:10:26) Mordaan dice: Ooh, that’s a good idea. Kill a maulbernaut and the next one may have different stats.
(23:10:26) Sasigher dice: i have two things, one big and one little
(23:10:37) Sasigher dice: maybe the little first
(23:10:47) Magodra dice:
(23:11:10) Perlan dice: you have only one question though
(23:11:11) Sasigher dice: i’d wish to have chocolate implemented, derivates of it like chocolate cake lateron too. would be nice for RP
(23:11:11) Famiel dice: they will be more agressive soon? like before? wanted to ask but figured it would get changed back
(23:11:12) Hipie dice: we need more of these meetings…
(23:11:15) Sasigher dice: =)
(23:11:20) Hipie dice: hehe.
(23:11:31) Hipie dice: cacao needes in first.
(23:11:39) Hipie dice: wouldn’t bee too hard.
(23:11:43) Troyyer dice: beer brewing
(23:11:47) Weltall dice: needs: art (2d/3d objects) + the same as the armors from earlier
(23:11:49) Arcoo dice: lol, chocolade
(23:11:50) Talad dice: Sasigher : just an item, or a craftable item?
(23:11:57) Hipie dice: cacao ground, added to milk, boiled?
(23:12:21) Sasigher dice: just an item first, simple bar of chocolate. lateron it can be included in baking e.g.
(23:12:26) Perlan dice: i consider doing art for PS
(23:12:33) Talad dice: ok, that’s easy
(23:12:36) Minks dice: We could ho hot Jookan mils.
(23:12:37) Talad dice: we can place it on our list
(23:12:39) Minks dice: *milk
(23:12:49) Talad dice: for mesh we can use the ingot, just scaled
(23:12:57) Talad dice: and a chocolate texture should be no problem
(23:13:09) Hipie dice: cool.
(23:13:11) Talad dice: I guess we can do that
(23:13:26) Mordaan dice: Sweet!
(23:13:27) Talad dice: ok, perlan last one!
(23:13:28) Mrokii dice: I want chocolate with engraved ulbernauts
(23:13:38) Famiel dice: lol
(23:13:42) Hipie dice: hehe
(23:13:43) Talad dice: Mrokii
(23:13:50) Talad dice: or in their shape
(23:13:52) Sasigher dice: ok, second thing, a little bit bigger: i am bored of especially one thing in PS. I started playing it in 2007, with a break in between. for about two years i have been running the distance Oja-BD for at least once a week
(23:14:03) Hipie dice: you could.
(23:14:15) Sasigher dice: which is extremely long, always the same, and boring
(23:14:17) Hipie dice: mesh of ulbernaut, shaled?
(23:14:18) Talad dice: Sasigher : we have pterosaur services, but not to BD
(23:14:22) Weltall dice: yeah we need a pterosaur there
(23:14:24) Sasigher dice: that’s my point
(23:14:35) Talad dice: you can fly to gug, then go to BD by mount
(23:14:48) Vaneal dice: still that takes some time
(23:14:57) Sasigher dice: WoW has animal services you can ride with on the back automatically, but having a pterosaur there woudl be a good start
(23:14:59) Talad dice: well yes, travelling takes time
(23:15:26) Talad dice: Sasigher : we have pterosaur services not pterosaur personal mounts
(23:15:27) Vaneal dice: time… never have enough of it
(23:15:31) Sasigher dice: i mean, it is right to be close to reality, but PS is my free time activity, and this is a little waste of time
(23:15:51) Talad dice: one thing we did in the new chain quests was to minimize travel
(23:15:57) Talad dice: unfortunately we didn’t fix all yet
(23:16:01) Perlan likes sincere critisism
(23:16:10) Talad dice: but many where changed to have more interesting content, and less travel
(23:16:20) Talad dice: and we want to continue that fix
(23:16:23) Minks dice: Not the cooking quest…
(23:16:33) Sasigher dice: if the maps were easy enough to be able to go afk while running, that would be ok too
(23:16:44) Talad dice: the fact is that we have 320 questss
(23:16:49) Talad dice: and it’s not easy to manage
(23:16:52) Zarre dice: The cost is rather expensive for new arrivals to PS and their stamina makes it quite a task to get to those cities. Perhaps price based on levels would be nice for them.
(23:17:02) Talad dice: if you want to help by mentioning the ones you have to travel too much, we can change those
(23:17:27) Sasigher dice: ok, i’ll tell you
(23:17:30) Talad dice: moving one step from one NPC to the other is doable
(23:17:46) Talad dice: ok, that was the last one!
(23:17:54) Sasigher dice: thanks
(23:17:54) Perlan dice: how so, the price would be relative to other travelling prices, i guess
(23:17:55) Talad dice: I want to thank sarva for moderating
(23:18:02) Famiel dice: thank you Talad!
(23:18:12) Hipie dice: bye bye?
(23:18:13) Talad dice: ah, sorry I said perlan last
(23:18:14) Talad dice:
(23:18:14) Mrokii dice: yes, thank you as well.
(23:18:16) Mordaan applauds for the devs
(23:18:19) Perlan dice: i talk too much, sorry
(23:18:29) Talad dice: perlan do you have a question or can you hold it for next time?
(23:18:32) Famiel claps
(23:18:32) Troyyer nods
(23:18:38) Resildren claps
(23:18:52) Menille bows with respect and thanks to the devs.
(23:19:02) Irec dice: add a next living npc command…
(23:19:13) Perlan dice: i was wondering another feature request
(23:19:15) Talad dice: Perlan : we are pretty late already … can you move it to next time?
(23:19:32) Perlan dice: to have more slots in the trade window
(23:19:43) Perlan dice: i mean, why does it have to be 8
(23:19:55) Vaneal dice: it could be 4 lol
(23:19:55) Zarre dice: Thanks for being her for us, Talad/DEV’s and the reast of the team.
(23:19:56) Perlan dice: if all other containers and invs are more
(23:20:09) Talad dice: thanks for participating!
(23:20:21) Talad dice: if you like PS spread the word about it
(23:20:23) Tuux dice: Thanks all
(23:20:24) Weltall dice: maybe can add one for graphic shake
(23:20:28) Voron dice: Thanks for your time. =)
(23:20:29) Irec dice: Thanks to everyone!!!!!
(23:20:30) Talad dice: post on other games forums about it
(23:20:32) Talad dice: support it
(23:20:32) Chessire claps
(23:20:35) Talad dice: and play it !!
(23:20:38) Troyyer dice: thank you
(23:20:43) Talad dice: build guilds
(23:20:47) Talad dice: invite your friends!
(23:20:58) Talad dice: thanks and see you soon.
(23:21:10) Menille dice: Bye Talad
(23:21:13) Mrokii dice: [Mrokii would clap two if she had two paws, heh]
(23:21:17) Derator waves
(23:21:23) Talad dice: you can exit from the door at the end of the room
(23:21:24) Troyyer dice: bye all
(23:21:28) Talad dice: click and “enter”
dom 01-mag-2011 17:42:23 Weltall
(17:56:15) Erelenga dice: You seem to know something about Magic Ways?
(17:56:28) Erelenga dice: I received a question I can’t answer.
(17:56:29) Gilrond dice: Are you asking me?
(17:56:37) Erelenga dice: Maybe you are able to help…
(17:56:40) Gilrond dice: I know something, yes
(17:56:41) Erelenga dice: You both.
(17:56:48) Mrokii turns her head.
(17:57:07) Erelenga dice: Miss Celeva is curious about Magic Circle quests and their progression.
(17:57:42) Gilrond dice: They offer different unique items mostly
(17:57:52) Gilrond dice: And knowledge about some spells
(17:58:10) Erelenga dice: The question was related to the number of lessons you need to have solved before one offers you another task.
(17:58:25) Gilrond dice: Ah, it differs between ways
(17:58:37) Gilrond dice: Brown seem to require less
(17:58:48) Mrokii dice: yes, it’s different for for each way.
(17:59:10) Gilrond dice: Crystal requires for example 20 to start I think
(17:59:24) Gilrond dice: Hi Weltall
(17:59:33) Mrokii dice: But they all take a long time to train.
(17:59:43) Gilrond dice: Why we didn’t start, are there any news about update servers?
(17:59:47) Mrokii dice: Not many people around today.
(17:59:54) Gilrond dice: Hello Oni
(17:59:59) Weltall dice: hi
(18:00:00) Onilise dice: Hi
(18:01:27) Weltall dice: well as always who wants to ask a question please go behind the stand
(18:01:47) Gilrond dice: Hi
(18:01:56) Weltall dice: hi
(18:01:57) Gilrond dice: Do you have any estimation about update servers?
(18:02:09) Gilrond dice: Are you in need of admins for them?
(18:02:19) Weltall dice: we need the server not an admin for them
(18:02:25) Gilrond dice: OK
(18:02:30) Erelenga dice: Uhm, well..
(18:02:31) Weltall dice: anyway it will be with the next version and we will break updates
(18:02:35) Erelenga dice: You have been offered a server.
(18:02:35) Gilrond dice: So you are missing hardware?
(18:02:45) Erelenga dice: Just a root access was denied, because tehre was no reason for it.
(18:02:47) Weltall dice: so you’ll need a new package
(18:03:04) Weltall dice: ssh access erelega not root access
(18:03:15) Gilrond dice: ssh access is of course needed
(18:03:41) Weltall dice: unfortunately it wasn’t accepted
(18:03:46) Gilrond dice: So is there any ETA or not even that?
(18:04:11) Weltall dice: i think no but anyway when update servers will be up you’ll need probably a new install
(18:04:22) Gilrond nods
(18:04:35) Weltall dice: i’m thinking of migrating windows builds to msvc 2010 sp1 so it would need at least a manual install of them
(18:04:40) Gilrond dice: So it’s tied with the new relesase
(18:04:57) Weltall dice: (we were doing it anyway but seems this is the right chance to do it now)
(18:05:20) Gilrond dice: OK, we’ll wait then, thanks
(18:05:27) Weltall dice: np
(18:05:40) Weltall dice: hi
(18:06:01) Erelenga dice: I would like to have an appointment with Sir Tuip Naltayroth
(18:06:16) Weltall points sarva
(18:06:39) Erelenga dice: He once started the contract between the Knowledge Seekers and Jayose.
(18:07:02) Weltall dice: ah that one contact drjack in irc
(18:07:09) Erelenga dice: We started reviewing published books and poems for the library annex.
(18:07:43) Erelenga dice: But until today there is no deadline, no sign of reviewing our reviews.
(18:08:22) Weltall dice: one of the issues which i’ve raised is a separation of canon setting from server specific setting
(18:08:53) Erelenga dice: Furthermore I wonder if any carpenter can already deliver new book shelves separately.
(18:08:57) Erelenga dice: Not only for the annex.
(18:09:09) Erelenga dice: I bet even guild house owners would enjoy book shelves filled with books.
(18:09:34) Weltall dice: hum can’t they buy the shelves?
(18:09:44) Erelenga dice: Empty shelves, yes.
(18:09:58) Bonifarzia dice: You mean a container type, Erelenga?
(18:10:00) Erelenga dice: But I know from a GM that placeable filled bookshelves as items would be useful too.
(18:10:28) Weltall dice: could be doable i’ll tell to stelanso
(18:10:33) Erelenga dice: Yes, as container too, so that some are able to privately fill them with books, and others can read them publicly without taking them off.
(18:10:50) Erelenga dice: That might enable the building of public user-made libraries.
(18:11:16) Mrokii dice: But I wouldn’t that mean that lots of items would be placed in Guildhouses? I thought we were limited on that.
(18:11:20) Weltall dice: i didn’t get others can read without taking them off you can still avoid that, and the privately part
(18:11:56) Erelenga dice: Well, I remember that Durgrem had some specific ideas which I don’t know here…
(18:12:06) Erelenga dice: He shall get in contact with you directly then.
(18:12:20) Weltall dice: well for now he didn’t ^^
(18:12:30) Erelenga dice: My most important part is that the Octarchy does not forget about our contract reviewing books.
(18:12:43) Boeven dice: thanks sarva
(18:12:50) Erelenga dice: Get the annex finished, and get our reviews be accepted or refused. Just not forgotten.
(18:13:16) Weltall dice: again remember drjack
(18:13:27) Gilrond dice: Since there are no more question so far…
(18:13:36) Gilrond dice: When will be new spells implemened?
(18:13:55) Gilrond dice: I mean those which are already mentioned in quests, like Stone Wrap, and spells with Chaos glyph, etc.
(18:14:10) Weltall dice: some of those are not even implementable
(18:14:20) Gilrond dice: What do you mean?
(18:14:46) Weltall dice: like some spells require things for which the engine might need a good revision of the code (if not rewriting of parts) in order to work
(18:15:04) Gilrond dice: You mean graphic effects?
(18:15:18) Weltall dice: no i mean actual effect
(18:15:26) Gilrond dice: Ah
(18:15:28) Bonifarzia dice: Like paralysing effects, right?
(18:15:34) Weltall dice: yes also
(18:15:44) Weltall dice: like sleep should freeze you
(18:16:18) Gilrond dice: But would it make sense not to tell about them in quests then?
(18:16:26) Gilrond dice: Or not to give those glyphs out yet
(18:16:36) Weltall dice: well i can’t revise what settings ends up with
(18:16:47) Bonifarzia grins.
(18:16:57) Gilrond dice: Hehe. Teams sync problem
(18:17:01) Sarva dice: Sounds like settings didn’t check with engine about what is possible yet.
(18:17:29) Gilrond dice: At least you can post about it somewhere
(18:17:42) Gilrond dice: So people won’t wase time trying to research them
(18:17:45) Weltall dice: add a bug in the bug tracker
(18:17:48) Gilrond dice: *waste
(18:17:57) Gilrond nods: I did for few things
(18:17:58) Weltall dice: if it’s not already there
(18:18:02) Bonifarzia dice: Wasn’t there even some related task already…
(18:18:07) Weltall dice: then that’s the place to look for
(18:18:13) Gilrond dice: Yes, one for Stone Wrap
(18:18:28) Gilrond dice: For Chaos glyph I don’t know
(18:18:37) Gilrond dice: Are there any researchable spells with it?
(18:19:22) Weltall dice: yes
(18:19:39) Gilrond dice: Oh, on main server (I mean not on dev one)?
(18:19:48) Gilrond dice: That’s good if yes
(18:19:54) Weltall dice: i always update all servers with the same data except in special cases
(18:20:11) Bonifarzia dice: So you have something to research for…
(18:20:29) Gilrond dice: Thanks, these are good news. Was it enabled recently or some time ago already?
(18:20:54) Weltall dice: prolly recently
(18:21:01) Gilrond dice: Thanks
(18:21:12) Mishka dice: Thanks Sarva
(18:21:47) Boeven dice: greetings weltall
(18:22:02) Weltall dice: hi
(18:22:11) Boeven dice: I’m working on my character’s background, and I’d like to know if someday we’ll be able to make weapons with magical properties, or this is against settings, or there are engine problems?
(18:22:53) Weltall dice: yes it will be done in the future. to be doable in a sane way we’d need to expand the engine, actually it was among the gsoc ideas but no student picked it up
(18:23:09) Avilay tickles mishka
(18:23:24) Boeven dice: what pity
(18:23:37) Boeven dice: well, at least I can wait
(18:23:42) Weltall nods
(18:23:43) Boeven dice: thanks
(18:23:52) Mishka squirms and giggles
(18:24:29) Avilay dice: i can’t wait to make magic infused item, then mages will have a business
(18:24:40) Mishka dice: And blacksmith mages.
(18:24:47) Mishka slobbers Avilay
(18:24:51) Weltall dice: prolly more alchemists
(18:25:14) Weltall dice: hi Mishka
(18:25:18) Mishka dice: O hai.
(18:26:00) Mishka dice: Is there any alchemy project “in the oven” or will we have to wait?
(18:26:34) Gilrond seconds the question
(18:26:44) Weltall dice: yes you’ll have to wait nothing is planned in the short period as i’ve said already
(18:26:44) Sasigher dice: sw is on it afaik
(18:27:04) Weltall dice: it’s better if one thing is done at a time first the leather working
(18:27:08) Mishka dice: Nope, we’re not on it.
(18:27:12) Mishka dice: We’re working on armors.
(18:27:34) Mishka dice: Thankie
(18:27:37) Cadhla dice: Leather working….. as in tanning hides, and such?
(18:27:48) Mishka dice: Yes, the SW team is working on it.
(18:28:05) Bonifarzia dice: Ah, skunkworks?
(18:28:08) Mishka dice: Yes.
(18:28:18) Erelenga dice: About the Google Summer of Code…
(18:28:26) Weltall dice: yes?
(18:29:08) Erelenga dice: Will interim results be published somewhere, like proposed projects, taken projects … did I miss that it already happened, maybe?
(18:29:20) Vubut is excited to see what the GSoC gets done.
(18:29:36) Bonifarzia dice: isnt that on the wiki? Parts of it?
(18:29:50) Weltall dice: you can check gsoc website and pswiki plus the svn under soc/2011/
(18:29:52) Vubut dice: you can also read about it on the GSoC site
(18:29:53) Gilrond dice: There is a post about it on the main site
(18:30:14) Erelenga dice: Aha. Thank you.
(18:30:20) Weltall dice: the projects are a gui improvement
(18:30:46) Weltall dice: a sound improvement (i think what you would be interested in is the last phase of this which is playing instruments)
(18:30:56) Vubut dice: hi Weltall
(18:30:57) Weltall dice: a combat improvement with some changes to combat
(18:30:59) Boeven dice: whoa!
(18:31:09) Weltall dice: and tribes expansion
(18:31:13) Gilrond dice: Sounds good
(18:31:20) Weltall dice: hi Vubut
(18:31:52) Vubut dice: Ok, this may have been asked before but I missed it
(18:32:05) Bonifarzia is curious about the improvements to the combat manager.
(18:32:13) Mishka dice: Combat improvement *¬*
(18:32:36) Vubut dice: Every Ylian I pass wearing heavy armor looks just like me…..is there ever going to be a way to “dye” my armor a different color ?
(18:33:02) Weltall dice: i’d suggest to read the old meetings either in my blog or the forums btw for the future. the last time we got almost all already answered questions
(18:33:30) Weltall dice: maybe but not planned yet. sorta we have other priorities right now
(18:33:46) Mrokii dice: It would be nice if there would be a prominent place on the homepage where a link to the previous logs is available.
(18:33:51) Gilrond dice: You can make a FAQ out of them
(18:34:01) Mishka seconds Gilrond’s opinion
(18:34:09) Vubut dice: ok great…didnt know you had a blog with the meetings logs…i will read them….and yes i understand other things are more important i was just wondering if that idea had been tossed around before…thanks
(18:34:11) Weltall dice: someone has to
(18:34:32) Bonifarzia dice: Have a good time everyone…
(18:34:41) Bonifarzia has to leave.
(18:34:48) Erelenga waves goodbye.
(18:34:57) Weltall dice: well doing different types of armors without high costumization works without real work on the engine
(18:35:50) Gilrond dice: I actually asked that before. Did you consider making diggable artefacts?
(18:36:01) Gilrond dice: And how hard would be to implement it?
(18:36:12) Mishka dice: *WoW reference detected*
(18:36:18) Gilrond dice: I mean there are archeologists like Nyshyn and her sister
(18:36:20) Weltall dice: yeah mishka
(18:36:35) Mishka snickers softly
(18:36:40) Gilrond dice: And they suggest the idea (even give out a shovel etc.)
(18:36:41) Weltall dice: no we didn’t, hard… well something like dig could be deployed
(18:36:54) Erelenga digs a gobble skull ?!?
(18:37:07) Gilrond dice: More like digging a rare sword or a glyph
(18:37:11) Gilrond dice: Nor often of course
(18:37:26) Gilrond dice: *Not
(18:37:35) Mishka makes a MineCraft mod named PlaneShift
(18:37:42) Weltall dice: well that would be more complex
(18:37:51) Mishka dice: There you can dig as much as you want.
(18:38:06) Gilrond dice: You mean to implement probability of finding different objects?
(18:38:54) Gilrond dice: Right now all that talk about archeology and their shovel look useless. (except for farming)
(18:39:03) Weltall dice: well you’d need to choose areas set all those values so you don’t overthrow balance. and lost items isn’t exactly archeology
(18:39:26) Gilrond dice: It can be lost or lost long time ago (like in ruins)
(18:39:45) Gilrond dice: So it’s more like treasure hunting really
(18:39:56) Gilrond dice: Unless you could make quests with it
(18:40:06) Gilrond dice: Like lost texts and etc.
(18:40:09) Erelenga once made art for a very very corroded Longsword …
(18:40:47) Weltall dice: well you’ve also to consider people would start getting many lost texts yet
(18:41:12) Mrokii dice: Or next to none, if it were realistic.
(18:41:15) Tuux dice: sorry hello everyone
(18:41:19) Menille dice: Buried treasure could be exciting to look for…
(18:41:24) Gilrond dice: That’s just an idea
(18:41:32) Gilrond dice: I think it’ll give some more fun for the game
(18:41:36) Menille dice: Hello Tuux
(18:41:39) Gilrond dice: You can implement it in different ways
(18:41:50) Weltall dice: ok
(18:42:02) Weltall dice: i’ll show it to others
(18:42:09) Gilrond dice: Thanks
(18:42:27) Erelenga dice: How is the progress with fixing damaged quests?
(18:42:38) Erelenga dice: I am still afraid of starting any.
(18:43:12) Erelenga dice: I hear so little about them working again reliably.
(18:43:25) Weltall dice: as always check the bugtracker i can’t say anything more on that just that when the server restarts probably quests fixed pending release should be up
(18:43:25) Erelenga dice: May just be that more people talk about things not working…
(18:43:56) Erelenga dice: So, one by one. Alright.
(18:44:00) Sarva dice: One thing that works on a few of the broken quests is to answer yes manually in the NPC channel
(18:44:28) Mrokii dice: Okay, can I?
(18:44:32) Sarva dice: Like where the NPC tkes an items from you and saks if you are ready and then doesn’t offer a yes option int he quest text box.
(18:45:02) Weltall dice: yes
(18:45:18) Gilrond dice: Like one with Trasok where he doesn’t get the axe answer
(18:45:28) Mrokii dice: I would like to know if you tell us a bit about abilities that will be implemented soon or are worked on in general.
(18:45:35) Mrokii dice: *if you can
(18:46:00) Mrokii dice: What can we expect soon, like playing instruments, climbing or whatever.
(18:46:10) Weltall dice: none of those i’d say soon
(18:46:18) Mrokii dice: Too bad.
(18:46:29) Mrokii dice: Anything else then? Apart from leatherworking possibly?
(18:46:40) Weltall dice: rules right now is busy with npc movement and will stay so for the foreseable future
(18:46:52) Mrokii dice: okay
(18:46:58) Erelenga dice: Bevon was stuck again today…
(18:46:59) Avilay whispers “work on flying”
(18:47:05) Gilrond dice: There is some progress – Rook can climb already
(18:47:09) Mishka remembers the mess when walking NPCs were tested out…
(18:47:14) Mordaan dice: Hopefully this hasn’t been discussed…
(18:47:18) Weltall dice: find me more coders avilay
(18:48:04) Mordaan dice: Will there be or is there quests in place like the magic chains for things like weapons, or armor, or any other skils?
(18:48:23) Weltall dice: they are already like that.
(18:48:38) Weltall dice: crafting is all chained
(18:48:41) Mordaan dice: In other words, let’s say you get to a certain level in sword and a trainer offers you a quest?
(18:48:46) Weltall dice: actually any quest is chained
(18:49:01) Weltall dice: ah no for now there is no such a thing
(18:49:04) Weltall dice: probably will be done
(18:49:11) Mordaan dice: Maybe it’s hard to tell when you’ve already done most of them.
(18:49:16) Mishka dice: Huhu Haraun
(18:49:23) Haraun dice: Huhu
(18:49:32) Mishka pats the bench next to her
(18:49:45) Mordaan dice: Ok, so still things like that being worked on?
(18:49:53) Weltall dice: yes
(18:49:59) Mordaan dice: Ok, great. Thank you.
(18:50:03) Erelenga dice: Like the “Guild quest” of the Hammers?
(18:50:33) Weltall dice: well to a certain degree the quest must remain consistant in the non rp server
(18:50:37) Avilay waves
(18:50:43) Weltall dice: hi
(18:50:50) Avilay dice: hello
(18:51:42) Avilay dice: is there any restrictions on the magic ways that could prevent one become a pure mage that can be master of all 6 ways?
(18:51:56) Onilise perks
(18:51:56) Weltall dice: no
(18:52:15) Mordaan smiles
(18:52:21) Onilise smiles
(18:52:24) Gilrond dice: Are they planned?
(18:52:35) Tuux dice: haa
(18:52:40) Avilay dice: so it is possible to do all the way quests without needing alts to get glyphs, staffs, etc
(18:52:41) Weltall dice: unsure topic still have to be thought personally i hope not
(18:52:50) Mordaan dice: Except for the astonishing time, effort, and tria it takes to get leveled that high.
(18:52:53) Gilrond dice: That’s great
(18:53:09) Avilay dice: i definitely hope no restrictions will be ever applied
(18:53:12) Gilrond dice: Though NPCs talk about such issues
(18:53:13) Weltall dice: yes increased difficulty is better imho
(18:53:38) Onilise second’s Avilay’s opinion
(18:53:52) Weltall dice: i know it’s still an hot topic. it’s possible the ways maybe will be locked as organizations but i’d disagre eon the skill not being trainable in any way
(18:54:00) Avilay dice: yep, that what confusing me too, the npc says there are restrictions
(18:54:22) Weltall dice: those quests where adapted from quests of 4 years ago
(18:54:33) Gilrond supports Weltall’s opinion
(18:54:34) Weltall dice: so we have still to see what to do
(18:54:45) Mrokii dice: I am probably in the minority but I would vote 100% for restrictions to be implemented.
(18:55:01) Weltall dice: i would vote 100% for not being implemented
(18:55:07) Menille dice: I am inclined to agree Mrokii
(18:55:09) Weltall dice: there is no point in pursuing wow
(18:55:10) Tuux dice: we have a draft for improuve magic game play, it’s question is still open
(18:55:31) Avilay dice: also can quests be created, seeing we have new parts of oja and amdeneir so that there alternitive ways to get glyphs that are choices for some quests, thus needing usage of alts to get those glyphs
(18:55:33) Tuux dice: for me that have to see with the game play, are we permit god or not
(18:55:38) Weltall dice: in game classes are the same as before game classes
(18:56:12) Weltall dice: we’d need some people to work on that avilay writing quests take a bit of time
(18:56:45) Weltall dice: as always i reiterate the point apply to help
(18:57:08) Cadhla looks rather interested in helping.
(18:57:16) Mrokii dice: What if one wanted to apply for that? Who would we have to talk to?
(18:57:23) Mordaan nods
(18:57:25) Avilay dice: get rid of talad, and i will be happy to help
(18:57:33) Mrokii dice: lol
(18:57:37) Gilrond dice: Hehe
(18:57:39) Mordaan dice: heh
(18:57:44) Boeven bows “greetings to all, and thanks”
(18:57:44) Avilay dice: we definitely don’t see eye to eye
(18:57:54) Menille dice: An alt would need to be trained in higher levels aof a chosen way to obtain these glyphs and wands,,, would you really spend that much time training an alt for a glyph?
(18:57:55) Weltall dice: i doubt that can be doable with a substitute to begin with and anyway i don’t foresee it being done
(18:58:06) Avilay dice: making quests that is
(18:58:14) Weltall dice: you apply from the main site
(18:58:18) Weltall dice: there is a section about it
(18:58:29) Weltall dice: without*
(18:58:30) Onilise dice: a quest writing section?
(18:58:42) Weltall dice: setting
(18:58:51) Weltall dice: under develop
(18:58:56) Onilise dice: k
(19:00:01) Cadhla nods. “I’ve looked at the main section, but I’m a bit confused where I’d be most useful to the team…. for example (I’m looking at the website now) I haven’t done pen-and-paper RPGs… though I’ve studied them to get better at my games. Still, I’ve been a writer for years. Should I still apply?”
(19:00:13) Weltall dice: yes
(19:00:33) Haraun chuckles “Clear answer”
(19:00:39) Cadhla chuckles.
(19:00:45) Avilay dice: i definite prefer free form game system, which allows a character to become anything, rather than a specified type that is available
(19:01:47) Avilay dice: actually, i can help write a quest into the required format for the engine, if there are story writters that create the dialogues
(19:02:15) Tuux dice: that great
(19:02:17) Mrokii dice: I guess I could come up with dialogues. I am a writer.
(19:02:17) Cadhla grins at Avilay. “Match made in heaven. I’d gladly work with you, or anyone else.”
(19:02:17) Weltall dice: you could also work under sw
(19:02:29) Tuux dice: if you want , the good place to start is the irc channel
(19:02:34) Weltall dice: but keep in mind one point quests must go under ABC license
(19:03:00) Avilay dice: well, i have no problems with quests for organizations
(19:03:29) Cadhla looks puzzled. “ABC Liscense? Where can I read about that?”
(19:03:50) Avilay dice: cadhla, well that is a possibility. i do prefer the formatting the information into script
(19:03:51) Erelenga dice: From the recruitment page, I believe?…
(19:03:53) Weltall dice: it’s again on the site under license
(19:04:07) Weltall dice: as two additional things there is an NDA for who wants to become a full dev
(19:04:14) Weltall dice: and a copyright assignment to AB
(19:04:19) Avilay dice: ABC is the pain in the butt license, where the artist loose their copyrights
(19:04:40) Mrokii dice: I wouldn’t mind.
(19:04:53) Onilise dice: It’s for PS anyways
(19:04:57) Erelenga dice: There is a good reason for that…
(19:04:59) Onilise shrugs
(19:05:34) Erelenga dice: If the artist withdraws in anger, the art could get rejected from the game if the copyright stays.
(19:05:36) Cadhla nods. “I expected something like that.”
(19:05:57) Avilay dice: weltall, what is sw you referring too
(19:06:05) Weltall dice: skunkwork
(19:07:23) Weltall dice: well our time is over i think i will salute you all
dom 15-mag-2011 22:07:51 Weltall
(22:07:51) Talad dice: ok, just brought is few more
(22:07:58) Talad dice: welcome to the meet the devs event!
(22:08:02) Talad dice: this meeting is made for you
(22:08:29) Talad dice: it’s organized is a very simple way, if you have a question, please line up here.
(22:08:48) Talad dice: try to keep a good line, so everyone has his turn
(22:09:14) Talad dice: type your questions beforehand, in a shortcut for example
(22:09:27) Talad dice: so you can easily say it when it’s your turn
(22:09:31) Talad dice: this event is completely OOC
(22:10:05) Talad dice: you can ask questions about the game, the future, the devs, …
(22:10:27) Talad dice: try to avoid very specific bugs or discussion which apply only to you or few people
(22:10:42) Talad dice: when you think to a question, make it so it’s interesting also to others listening
(22:11:04) Talad dice: brief round of introductions
(22:11:19) Talad dice: I’m Luca, project leader.
(22:11:32) Talad dice: weltall can you introduce yourself?
(22:12:00) Weltall dice: i’m engine leader and i manage the servers (but only part of them)
(22:12:17) Talad dice: stelanso?
(22:12:56) Stelanso dice: I’m responsble for the rules team. Messing up the database etc.
(22:13:11) Talad dice: Arcoo ?
(22:13:30) Talad dice: magodra
(22:13:31) Talad dice: ?
(22:13:37) Magodra dice: Hi, I’m Anders, Server developer. Manly working on the npcclient, that I have done for years now.
(22:13:40) Arcoo dice: Hello, I’m Arco. I am busy with 3D stuff
(22:13:54) Talad dice: symbyan?
(22:13:57) Symbyan dice: I’m Travis(Landson), I am a gsoc student, My project is the enhancment of the combat system.
(22:14:16) Talad dice: ok, cool
(22:14:28) Talad dice: thanks for joining
(22:14:38) Talad dice: if anyone has questions please go to the stand
(22:14:46) Talad dice: if not I will just give you some updates on what we are working on atm
(22:15:11) Talad dice: ah, ok, seems there are questions
(22:15:21) Talad dice: Hi Dramoral
(22:15:27) Talad dice: you are first
(22:15:28) Dramoral dice: Will weapons have specific effects? (directed towards travis)
(22:15:33) Mrokii dice: Couldn’t we have that at every meeting from you? for maybe 5 minutes or so? Shouldn’t take too long.
(22:15:53) Talad dice: I can do that Mrokii
(22:16:03) Symbyan dice: I have no plans of giving weapons special effects per say, but I do plan on implementing various attacks which will have special effects.
(22:16:32) Talad dice: yes, the idea is to have special attacks which can be used in combat
(22:16:40) Talad dice: attack or defenses
(22:16:58) Dramoral dice: ah, i guess that makes sence thanks
(22:17:02) Talad dice: making combat more various than today
(22:17:10) Talad dice: hi Catarina
(22:17:13) Catarina dice: hi
(22:17:31) Catarina dice: i’m wondering if you plan to make a guild storage any time in the future?
(22:17:46) Talad dice: Weltall can you take this one?
(22:17:48) Catarina dice: so that if one in a guild has a code, they can access anything any off the memebers put in?
(22:17:48) Weltall dice: maybe but there are several issues with that
(22:18:01) Weltall dice: it wouldn’t be with a code anyway
(22:18:07) Weltall dice: but work like bank
(22:18:15) Talad dice: can’t we use a chest in the guildhouse?
(22:18:21) Weltall dice: also the limits of personal storage would be there too
(22:18:26) Catarina dice: i see
(22:18:30) Weltall dice: they use things of the range of thousand items talad
(22:18:54) Talad dice: well, a large chest then
(22:18:56) Catarina dice: i was also wondering if there will be another guildhouse auction any time soon?
(22:19:25) Talad dice: but for hundreds of items is probably easier to have a bank type of UI
(22:19:53) Weltall dice: it would be a permission on the guild pane
(22:19:57) Talad dice: it should be a shared bank account for all the guild members
(22:20:05) Hawin dice: could these items cause lagg in the Guild House Weltall ?
(22:20:18) Weltall dice: no but your guild while being online will use ram
(22:20:19) Talad dice: so the NPC trusts all guild members (assuming they carry a symbol or letter)
(22:21:02) Talad dice: does this answer your question Catarina ?
(22:21:08) Catarina dice: yes….
(22:21:11) Catarina dice: i was also wondering if there will be another guildhouse auction any time soon?
(22:21:43) Talad dice: one question at a time
(22:21:47) Catarina dice: my apologies
(22:21:49) Talad dice: to be fair with others
(22:21:55) Talad dice: just queue again if you want
(22:22:06) Talad dice: Hi Xairia
(22:22:27) Xairia dice: Hello. I have two questions actually, so I’ll be back.
(22:22:31) Xairia dice: I’d love to know the current state of the Klyros: gliding, water breathing, and female graphics. Could this be explained to me?
(22:22:48) Weltall dice: female graphics is the one which will come first
(22:23:10) Talad dice: for the female we have the model already
(22:23:25) Talad dice: and we plan to use the same skeleton as the male
(22:23:30) Weltall dice: the others will take a while we have currently other priorities and big work will be difficult outside the gsoc regime in the next months
(22:23:34) Talad dice: what is missing is rigging and textures
(22:24:02) Talad dice: for water there was one proposal made from Pizik on it
(22:24:10) Xairia dice: Will the models be enough to make a big difference between male counterparts?
(22:24:10) Talad dice: chase him and ask him to work on it!
(22:24:28) Xairia dice: lol. I’ll keep his name in mind.
(22:24:29) Talad dice: Xairia : I think so
(22:24:46) Talad dice: the aniimations will look similar
(22:24:50) Talad dice: for now
(22:25:03) Xairia dice: Ok, thank you.
(22:25:07) Talad dice: but this will help us to add the model faster
(22:25:31) Thob dice: You told us about one thing by now Symbyan .. could you give more details of your plan/work?
(22:25:58) Weltall dice: check pswiki thob that’s where design are being done
(22:26:02) Talad dice: thob, there is a pretty good explanation of the combat idea on the pswiki
(22:26:13) Talad dice: it’s planeshift.ezpcusa.com/pswiki
(22:26:18) Thob dice: Well.. this event is for question like this?
(22:26:19) Symbyan dice: Its under combat enhancement =)
(22:26:25) Talad dice: under engine, there is a “gsoc 2011″ page
(22:26:30) Talad dice: and into it the combat idea
(22:26:41) Talad dice: it has quite some information
(22:26:54) Talad dice: Symbyan you can elaborate on it if you want
(22:27:03) Thob dice: Ok, you are lazy.. I’ll read the wik
(22:27:16) Symbyan dice: I can give a quick description =) just not elaborate too much
(22:27:21) Catarina blinks
(22:27:39) Irec dice: hi guys
(22:27:53) Dramoral blinks
(22:27:55) Weltall dice: hi
(22:28:07) Irec dice: my question regards the speed of weapons
(22:28:36) Irec dice: i find it a bit strange that heavy axes are faster than for.eks. sabres
(22:28:47) Weltall agrees
(22:29:03) Irec dice: any plans here?
(22:29:18) Weltall dice: it’s for stelanso
(22:29:28) Talad dice: do you have some examples?
(22:29:50) Weltall dice: just look at the basic ones talad they have the fault too
(22:29:55) Talad dice: battle axe is 2.10
(22:30:09) Talad dice: sabre is 1.80
(22:30:37) Weltall dice: sabre is 2.0
(22:30:47) Irec dice: indeed
(22:30:59) Irec dice: and a re.inf. axe is 1.9
(22:31:09) Talad dice: I checked fine sabre
(22:31:18) Talad dice: yes sabre is 2.0
(22:31:26) Weltall dice: a reinforced battle axe is only 2.30
(22:31:35) Irec dice: the weight diff. is huge though
(22:31:39) Weltall dice: this thing is 4kg
(22:32:36) Talad dice: we can check to increase a bit the reinforced battle axe
(22:32:43) Dramoral fidgets
(22:32:43) Talad dice: Stelanso can you take a note on this?
(22:33:08) Talad dice: basically we should probably review the weight and shape compared to speed
(22:33:22) Talad dice: even if certain weapons are swing differently
(22:33:27) Talad dice: so that may give a different timing
(22:34:09) Irec dice: imo sabres should be one of the fastest weapons in game
(22:34:22) Irec dice: counting out daggers and knives of course
(22:34:28) Stelanso dice: We talking about the pandoras box of combat balencing here Which i havn’t got time to go into to much detail atm.
(22:34:35) Weltall dice: and galkard
(22:34:50) Irec dice: yes… the infamous galkard…
(22:34:55) Talad dice: sabre is like a shortsword today
(22:35:07) Talad dice: 2.0
(22:35:18) Irec dice: but the SS is heavier
(22:35:24) Talad dice: because of it’s smaller size compared to a longsword
(22:35:29) Irec dice: anyway… you get my point =)
(22:35:52) Talad dice: they weight the same
(22:35:53) Talad dice: 1.0
(22:36:08) Talad dice: anyway we can do some sanity checks and see if there is any error
(22:36:22) Talad dice: the more evident one seems the reinforced axe
(22:36:35) Talad dice: which was created to be a better version, but was probably discounted too much in speed
(22:36:53) Irec dice: indeed
(22:37:02) Talad dice: ok
(22:37:05) Talad dice: we can move to the next question
(22:37:08) Irec dice: just had to get it off my chest
(22:37:14) Irec dice: thank you all
(22:37:23) Talad dice: hi Ardoin
(22:37:32) Ardoin dice: hey Talad
(22:37:55) Ardoin dice: What are youre plans for the summer? Also, please be specific.
(22:38:28) Irec dice: vacation plans?
(22:38:44) Ardoin dice: Plans for a game.
(22:38:47) Ardoin dice: the*
(22:39:24) Dramoral waits
(22:39:31) Talad dice: mmm
(22:39:43) Talad dice: we have 4 people accepted in the GSoC initiative
(22:39:52) Talad dice: and they will be working on the game full time on summer
(22:39:59) Ardoin secretely hopes one of them involves the hammerwielder models.
(22:40:03) Talad dice: so I think the summer will really bring some very good new things to PS
(22:40:23) Ardoin dice: Thanks for your time.
(22:40:27) Talad dice: the main projects are improvements to the sound system
(22:40:32) Talad dice: improvements to combat
(22:40:33) Magodra dice: Gsoc is a coding prosjekt, so that will mainly be server/client improvments.
(22:40:43) Weltall dice: doubt there are other priorities even on models
(22:40:43) Talad dice: expansion of the tribes system
(22:40:59) Weltall dice: full races wiithout even a resembling model
(22:41:04) Talad dice: and a rework of some of the UI parts
(22:41:24) Weltall dice: hw and sb are quite similar in place
(22:41:36) Ardoin dice: So are xacha and ylian.
(22:41:47) Weltall dice: xacha got nothing new so
(22:41:57) Talad dice: for the races atm we are planning to add the klyros female and the nolthrir male
(22:41:59) Weltall dice: i’m talking of other races
(22:42:01) Talad dice: those are the two in work
(22:42:15) Talad dice: to complete the set of male/female
(22:42:28) Ardoin dice: Well, hopefully the hammerwielder modles will be a made. One can only hope.
(22:42:38) Ardoin dice: Thank you for your time.
(22:42:45) Talad dice: don’t expect those soon Ardoin
(22:42:52) Talad dice: before the next question, I have a question
(22:43:01) Talad dice: how many of you are using MyPlane?
(22:43:07) Blazecon dice: o/
(22:43:09) Irec dice: i
(22:43:15) Talad dice: do you think it’s a good start for it?
(22:43:19) Xairia dice: I’ve used it some but not extensively.
(22:43:21) Mrokii dice: me
(22:43:23) Kaipaber dice: Me
(22:43:26) Talad dice: we are planning to add rewards to it pretty soon
(22:43:33) Catarina dice: i use it
(22:43:36) Talad dice: for example a reward if you played crystal blue version
(22:43:41) Talad dice: or even earlier version
(22:43:43) Sasigher dice: here
(22:43:47) Talad dice: it will stay mostly OOC
(22:43:50) Sideor dice: I haven’t heard of it…
(22:44:00) Xairia dice: It is quite useful, since there is no IG option to look at worn supplies.
(22:44:02) Blazecon dice: that would be nice, even add acheivments?
(22:44:10) Talad dice: Sideor it’s on the main page in the news
(22:44:16) Talad dice: servername/myplane
(22:44:16) Sideor dice: okay
(22:44:21) Talad dice: works for both servers
(22:44:43) Talad dice: we added recently the online list
(22:44:53) Talad dice: so if you log in you will see a “players online” now
(22:45:00) Talad dice: and you can see who has their profile open
(22:45:04) Talad dice: and browse it
(22:45:07) Irec dice: nice
(22:45:26) Talad dice: a good step forward could be to then let the people leave messages to others
(22:45:29) Talad dice: maybe that can be in game
(22:45:33) Talad dice: we will see
(22:45:54) Talad dice: be sure to link your MyPlane char in your signatures, or facebook, or other places
(22:45:59) Talad dice: it may bring new players in PS
(22:46:14) Talad dice: Hi Catarina , what’s your next question?
(22:46:18) Catarina dice: Hello again… I was wondering if there will be another guildhouse auction any time soon, also where will the houses be and general starting bids?
(22:46:34) Talad dice: I thikn Sarva should answer that
(22:47:25) Catarina dice: guess i will have to wait then
(22:47:34) Catarina smiles
(22:47:34) Talad dice: I can tell you that we are building right now the enki guildhouse
(22:47:36) Sarva dice: No solid plans right now Catarina.
(22:47:37) Talad dice: the new model
(22:47:41) Talad dice: it’s pretty much finished
(22:47:45) Talad dice: including textures
(22:47:47) Catarina dice: ah didn’t see you abck there sarva
(22:47:54) Sarva dice: Min bid will porbably stay the same as the last auction od 1 million trias.
(22:48:02) Catarina nods
(22:48:10) Weltall dice: but that doesn’t mean that people won’t build up tria
(22:48:19) Catarina dice: of course
(22:48:20) Talad dice: we still have to undertsand how/if to convert the old ones
(22:48:25) Talad dice: in case some are in oja
(22:48:49) Sarva dice: As for areas I would heop Amdeneir and the new portion of Oja might have houses but Weltall has to let us know when we can have houses in those areas. Weltall also has to set up any new houses we will be offering.
(22:48:50) Catarina dice: thank you
(22:49:03) Talad dice: Sarva : any date for the next guild auction?
(22:50:00) Talad dice: mmm.. too far and you don’t hear me?
(22:50:09) Weltall dice: shout
(22:50:55) Talad dice: maybe I didn’t hear your answer thne
(22:50:59) Talad dice: ok, no problem then
(22:51:08) Talad dice: hi Dramoral
(22:51:13) Dramoral dice: do you have any plans to change the running/jump animation?
(22:51:13) Talad dice: what’s your next question?
(22:51:23) Sarva dice: I said no solid plan with now and it will depend on when Weltall can have new houses set up for us Talad.
(22:51:32) Talad dice: actually we don’t have one
(22:51:50) Talad dice: when you jump the char is just playing the walk animation
(22:51:57) Weltall dice: i’d start cleaning dead ones btw
(22:52:08) Talad dice: which results in a not very nice anim
(22:52:21) Dramoral dice: well to me they seem to look as if they dont fit with the char
(22:52:51) Blazecon dice: i wanted to know when, or if, the information related to the biology and anatomy of the races will be expanded. diagrams and dedicated books for each race for example would be wonderful.
(22:53:31) Talad dice: Blazecon : are you volunteering to write something on this?
(22:53:43) Talad dice: the pswiki can be a good start for this
(22:53:46) Weltall dice: sure it will always it ends up on our team size
(22:53:54) Blazecon dice: i guess i could
(22:54:05) Talad dice: we don’t have much written on the biology except what you have on the web site
(22:54:05) Blazecon dice: i wouldnt have any problem with doing that
(22:54:21) Talad dice: then start sometehing on the wiki
(22:54:24) Talad dice: and we can review it
(22:54:36) Blazecon nods, “thank you”
(22:54:37) Talad dice: remember that for wiki login you need to contact us on irc
(22:54:46) Blazecon dice: k
(22:54:50) Kaipaber dice: Hello
(22:54:55) Weltall dice: hi
(22:55:00) Talad dice: hi Kaipaber
(22:55:23) Kaipaber dice: today the life of a mage is pretty easy as, with high enough armor skill, or even wielding two shields, he can’t be hit. Would be nice to decrease mage’s defense while casting. Also makes sense ICly, since he would be too concentrated to block every hit, and could lead to interesting fighter vs mage duels
(22:55:55) Weltall dice: doesn’t hit stop casting?
(22:56:02) Blazecon dice: i dont think so..
(22:56:02) Sasigher dice: no
(22:56:10) Weltall dice: sounds like a bug then
(22:56:25) Blazecon dice: and ive been hearing complaints of their attack being underpowered for its expense…
(22:56:27) Kaipaber dice: *if* you hit, you don’t make much damage
(22:56:35) Blazecon dice: isnt that bringing them down a bit to far?
(22:56:38) Kaipaber dice: so not enough to stop him
(22:56:46) Esanor dice: Just an idea – how about reducing the agility in the calculations during this moment.
(22:56:49) Weltall dice: by stop i mean the casting is canceled
(22:57:01) Kaipaber dice: with enough damage yes
(22:57:07) Kaipaber dice: but is almost impossible
(22:57:09) Weltall dice: with little it’s not?
(22:57:24) Weltall dice: actually it should also on block i think
(22:58:03) Xairia dice: It would make sense, due to the mage loosing concentration.
(22:58:30) Kaipaber dice: if i stay in fullydefensive with two shields, i can’t be hit at all, and cast without problems
(22:58:41) Weltall dice: miss?
(23:00:04) Kaipaber dice: neither
(23:00:08) Weltall dice: ?
(23:00:17) Weltall dice: what then?
(23:00:57) Kaipaber dice: i mean mages are overpowered, they can’t be hit
(23:01:11) Sasigher dice: HA is overpowered
(23:01:20) Kaipaber dice: yes, that is
(23:01:39) Weltall dice: yes but i mean the commands. i can check if there is a way to know the spellcasting status but then it’s up to stelanso. anyway knowing the exact message you get would be helpful
(23:01:46) Sasigher dice: with worse defensive values the mage thing would be solved too
(23:02:43) Kaipaber dice: i block and dodge everything, and if something hit, for <10 damage
(23:03:08) Weltall dice: ok then the block and hit should interrupt spell casting for sure
(23:03:24) Talad dice: we need to move to the next question… for time sake
(23:03:26) Weltall dice: if they don’t it’s a bug and should be fixed anyway notice all these things could change with Symbyan work
(23:03:33) Kaipaber dice: ok, thank you
(23:03:38) Esanor waves goodbye.
(23:03:40) Stelanso dice: Personaly i favour penilizing magic users useing armor/shields.
(23:04:00) Talad dice: hi Hawin
(23:04:03) Hawin dice: Are there any plans to have personal items , like pipes , walking sticks, bags, props and such for the use in role play.?
(23:04:06) Weltall dice: that’s even easier to implement only it has to be added to all spells
(23:04:55) Symbyan dice: penilizing certain attacks using certain armor types was actually something i was looking at doing for the combat system
(23:05:00) Talad dice: pipes will require a “socket” on the mouth
(23:05:03) Talad dice: we don’t have that atm
(23:05:12) Talad dice: we have one on the head for helms
(23:05:18) Talad dice: not sure if we can reuse it easily
(23:05:34) Talad dice: walking sticks will need special animations
(23:05:42) Talad dice: so overall what you ask is not very easy
(23:05:57) Talad dice: unless those are just items without the ability to “wear” those
(23:06:44) Hawin dice: i mean not attached, but you can carry, and loose
(23:07:01) Hawin dice: like a purse and such
(23:07:05) Sarva dice: There is a picnic basket now.
(23:07:27) Talad dice: ok, that’s easier
(23:07:38) Talad dice: will be good to start a list of “most wanted” rp items
(23:07:48) Talad dice: and we can then start to make those
(23:07:54) Sasigher dice: chocolate <.<
(23:08:04) Talad dice: small items are easy to create also for new prospects
(23:08:12) Hawin dice: could they be crafted Talad ?
(23:08:31) Talad dice: I would suggest not
(23:08:33) Talad dice: for the simple items
(23:08:36) Weltall dice: crafting requires a lot more work
(23:08:47) Weltall dice: there are other crafts which would come first regardless
(23:08:47) Talad dice: just buying from the NPCs
(23:09:02) Hawin dice: ok, thats all , thank you
(23:09:06) Talad dice: ok, last question from Ardoin
(23:09:10) Talad dice: and then we have to go
(23:09:14) Ardoin dice: How does weather work in yliakum? Where do the clouds and lightening come from, as well as the rain? Yliakum is a stlagmite, so I’m not to sure it has an atmospher.
(23:09:25) Ardoin dice: atmosphere*
(23:10:20) Talad dice: the stalactite is big enough
(23:10:28) Talad dice: also it received the sun from outside
(23:10:39) Talad dice: the crystal (at least this is what they say) it’s linked to the surface
(23:10:39) Magodra dice: And plenty of water at the bottom.
(23:10:49) Talad dice: with a long crystal vertical tunnel
(23:11:00) Talad dice: and it brings in the warm and light of the outside
(23:11:07) Talad dice: this generates warm/cold currents
(23:11:22) Talad dice: and that generates clouds/wet/rain
(23:11:40) Talad dice: also the rivers flow down to the lower levels forming a sort of sea
(23:11:42) Mugran dice: [Does this mean the whole radioactive-plasma-crystal is dated information?]
(23:11:48) Talad dice: that is also generating evaporation of water
(23:11:57) Talad dice: which then goes up and forms clouds
(23:12:27) Talad dice: Mugran : no, it fits with this
(23:12:47) Talad dice: the crystal is quite special and filters the light coming from above in a very weird way
(23:12:49) Ardoin dice: I think you guys need to update the site with this information.
(23:12:57) Talad dice: multiplying and changing it’s effects
(23:13:51) Talad dice: ok
(23:13:57) Ardoin dice: One last thing…
(23:13:59) Mugran dice: I see.
(23:14:01) Talad dice: meeting is completed!
(23:14:02) Ardoin dice: About the picnic basket.
(23:14:20) Ardoin dice: Hey Sarva… Let’s see what’s inside that picinic basket!
(23:14:31) Talad dice: thanks for participating
(23:14:37) Talad dice: you can exit from the door at the end of the hall
(23:14:37) Sarva dice: It is empty.
(23:14:38) Weltall dice: bye
(23:14:38) Xairia dice: Thank you for the invite.
(23:14:40) Sasigher dice: ardoin is hungry
(23:14:46) Talad dice: bye bye
(23:14:47) Symbyan dice: bye everyone =)
(23:14:50) Ardoin dice: Nobody gets the joke?
(23:15:03) Irec dice: Bye guys
(23:15:06) Ardoin dice: Dang…
(23:15:07) Hawin stuffs his pipe with herbs of the valley, and heads or the door
(23:15:21) Irec dice: …and thanks for the meeting
(23:15:26) Ardoin dice: Well, goodbye.
(23:15:30) Ardoin dice: And thanks.
dom 05-giu-2011 18:14:21 Weltall
(18:14:21) Weltall dice: hi
(18:14:22) Gilrond dice: Will forum be up soon btw?
(18:14:23) Zarre smiles at Grebon “hello”
(18:14:32) Grebon dice: Glad you could get here
(18:14:35) Weltall dice: no idea it depends on the hoster of it
(18:15:25) Grebon dice: ((one more time ^^))
(18:15:53) Heolion dice: hey Ylox !
(18:15:57) Zarre dice: lol… greeting everyone certainly is faster.
(18:16:07) Heolion dice: welcome
(18:16:08) Weltall dice: if you’ve any question please make a line
(18:16:23) Ylox dice: a new badge Heolion?
(18:16:27) Weltall dice: as a note don’t try to access the arena without 0.5.7 (+ related art)
(18:16:33) Heolion winks new branded
(18:16:50) Gilrond dice: Hello Weltall
(18:16:58) Gilrond dice: Are update servers working?
(18:17:07) Gilrond dice: The last one I had to change to manually
(18:17:18) Gilrond dice: And it had no repair option there
(18:17:23) Weltall dice: should be i think talad is uploading it on sajut server the 0.5.7 update
(18:17:27) Ylox dice: i domnt get the option to upgrade to 0.5.7
(18:17:36) Gilrond dice: Me too
(18:17:42) Heolion dice: me neither
(18:17:54) Keella dice: neither me
(18:17:55) Gilrond dice: I changed the settings according to LigH suggestions on the forum
(18:17:55) Weltall dice: should be i think talad>>>>>>>> is uploading<<<<<<<<< it on sajut server the 0.5.7 update
(18:18:11) Gilrond dice: What is the address of the update server then?
(18:18:12) Keella dice: so we have to wait…
(18:18:22) Gilrond dice: Just to be sure I have the correct one
(18:18:29) Weltall dice: well if you change settings i can’t help you better off waiting the full distro i don’t know what could happen in that case
(18:18:35) Heolion smiles to Mrokii welcome
(18:18:42) Grebon dice: Is that server limited to what machines may access for the update ?
(18:18:47) Weltall dice: we tested only updates from 0.5.6
(18:18:53) Gilrond dice: OK, so what is the correct one then?
(18:19:28) Gilrond dice: I have now ss9.us/update
(18:19:28) Perlan [OOC-ly greets Sarva]
(18:19:32) Weltall dice: letting the updater discover it while being able to write in it’s folder
(18:19:34) Perlan dice: lol
(18:19:38) Weltall dice: no that’s not even up
(18:19:43) Gilrond dice: Oh,
(18:19:55) Gilrond dice: So can you please say what is the correct address?
(18:20:18) Weltall dice: let the updater discover it
(18:20:24) Perlan greets everyone present and sits with Ylox
(18:20:33) Gilrond dice: It can’t, if the server is down obviously
(18:20:44) Gilrond dice: So I need to manually set it
(18:20:45) Weltall dice: the server list is grabbed from planeshift.it
(18:21:02) Weltall dice: if it doesn’t work reinstall or wait 0.5.7 full binary
(18:21:08) Ylox looks down to perlan “am not sitting”
(18:21:11) Gilrond dice: With 0.5.6 client?
(18:21:17) Weltall dice: yes
(18:21:46) Gilrond dice: So it regenerates updateservers.xml automatically?
(18:22:00) Weltall dice: it uses another file
(18:22:07) Weltall dice: to find servers
(18:22:35) Gilrond dice: updaterinfo.xml?
(18:22:42) Weltall dice: updateservers.xml
(18:23:09) Gilrond dice: Yes, but mu updateserver.xml has no entry for .it sever
(18:23:17) Gilrond dice: I should add it there?
(18:23:30) Weltall dice: it?
(18:23:34) Gilrond dice: *updateservers.xml
(18:23:44) Gilrond dice: I mean planeshift.it
(18:23:45) Weltall dice: planeshift.it is where the updater searches for updateservers
(18:23:50) Weltall dice: it doesn’t host updates
(18:23:59) Gilrond dice: So it’s hardcoded?
(18:24:17) Weltall dice: in the binary
(18:24:22) Gilrond dice: Ah, OK
(18:24:37) Gilrond dice: Then something is messed up – it offers no updates
(18:24:45) Weltall dice: then wait
(18:24:52) Gilrond dice: Alright, thanks
(18:25:01) Zarre dice: Hi Weltall. The female Lemur characters created now only have the option to have white hair. Will this change in the near future?
(18:25:23) Weltall dice: lemur don’t have their own mesh so till that won’t happen there won’t be costumizations
(18:25:49) Zarre dice: Alright. Thank you.
(18:26:04) Mrokii dice: [afk]
(18:26:18) Gilrond smiles: Me again
(18:26:29) Gilrond dice: Is there work being done on missing spells?
(18:26:47) Gilrond dice: Lot’s of BRW spells mentioned in quests seem to be defunct
(18:26:48) Weltall dice: which missing spell?
(18:26:56) Gilrond dice: Armoured skin for example
(18:27:10) Heolion dice: icy ground too
(18:27:28) Gilrond dice: There is also supposed to be some spell with Negate and BRW glyphs
(18:27:34) Gilrond dice: It’s not researchable it seems
(18:27:56) Weltall dice: some spell are probably not even implementable for others post them on the bugtracker but rules focus right now is the npcclient
(18:28:21) Gilrond dice: Not implementable but mentioned in quests still?
(18:28:42) Weltall dice: well setting devs didn’t check the data before adding those
(18:28:55) Gilrond dice: At least can you post some open bugs which spells aren’t implementable?
(18:29:16) Weltall dice: open a bug about that
(18:29:45) Weltall dice: i don’t know what spells are mentioned in the quest i’d need to read several pages of text
(18:29:47) Gilrond dice: I’m not always comfortable doing that – may be my research just fails
(18:29:54) Gilrond dice: I have no idea what realms they are
(18:30:14) Gilrond dice: You should better know what’s not implemented yet really
(18:31:00) Weltall dice: well i can’t check what setting devs do
(18:31:13) Gilrond dice: OK. I can post what I know already at least
(18:31:33) Ylox dice: me next?
(18:31:42) Weltall dice: yes
(18:31:48) Ylox dice: alright
(18:31:55) Ylox dice: thanks for taking questions
(18:32:00) Ylox dice: have two
(18:32:06) Ylox dice: first about dlayo pit
(18:32:08) Weltall dice: ok
(18:32:15) Ylox dice: it is different now
(18:32:25) Weltall dice: hum?
(18:32:26) Ylox dice: other, broader boundary
(18:32:38) Ylox dice: there were issues at yesterdays cup
(18:32:42) Ylox dice: i was told
(18:32:56) Ylox dice: targeting issues
(18:33:10) Ylox dice: do you plan to make it as it was?
(18:33:20) Weltall dice: the last time it was reported it was not reproduceable
(18:33:20) Ylox dice: with a small border
(18:33:37) Weltall dice: the data anyway didn’t change for years there
(18:34:04) Ylox dice: i might have to take a closer look at it
(18:34:25) Ylox dice: my second question is about the npc client
(18:34:33) Weltall dice: could well be lag making it look that way after all the cup is caotic
(18:34:40) Ylox dice: yes
(18:34:57) Ylox dice: i can do some research on it
(18:35:05) Ylox dice: so, pnc
(18:35:08) Ylox dice: npc
(18:35:40) Ylox dice: those mobs do not move if they are not at the same level
(18:36:56) Ylox dice: if i attack a mob, often it does not move
(18:36:59) Weltall dice: well the npcclient was switched to a new system based on navmesh which is still being improved but the highest issue they have is the portals
(18:38:24) Ylox dice: a work in progress, i see
(18:38:28) Weltall dice: when i’ll upload the new navmesh anyway it should behave a bit better
(18:38:39) Ylox dice: hope
(18:38:41) Ylox dice: so
(18:38:45) Ylox dice: thanks
(18:38:48) Ylox bows
(18:38:55) Weltall dice: np
(18:39:17) Keella dice: Hi, I was wondering about magic items, such as weapons, is it possible to know what they do from the description or somewhere?
(18:39:43) Weltall dice: most show in your skills and stats
(18:39:53) Weltall dice: the rest change defense or attack global values
(18:39:59) Keella dice: yes, but what with others?
(18:40:11) Gilrond dice: Lot’s of them have hidden effects
(18:40:33) Weltall dice: hidden effects are only those two
(18:40:42) Keella dice: how am I supposed to know what it does if the percentage oe the effect is so small
(18:40:49) Weltall dice: it’s small
(18:41:45) Keella dice: so they don’t do anything else?
(18:41:54) Weltall dice: no that’s all
(18:42:06) Keella dice: thanks
(18:42:11) Weltall dice: np
(18:43:59) Gilrond dice: I have a question about skills practice. Can you add exact practice points reporting instead of “some practice points”?
(18:44:12) Ylox dice: [if i turn my char, the client crashes, what could that be?]
(18:44:16) Heolion dice: that would be very nice
(18:44:24) Mariana agrees
(18:44:49) Weltall dice: many people like things not being precise as it goes against rp we will think about it
(18:44:58) Gilrond dice: May be
(18:45:08) Gilrond dice: But it seems right now practice isn’t balanced enough
(18:45:19) Gilrond dice: So one gets only 1 practice point in almost all cases
(18:45:27) Gilrond dice: But there is no way of knowint that
(18:45:35) Heolion nods
(18:46:07) Gilrond dice: If it would be balanced – I wouldn’t even mind no reporting at all
(18:46:14) Gilrond dice: But now I’d prefer to see the number
(18:46:42) Karlyle dice: PP’s are based on stats, higher stats lower PP’s received
(18:46:43) Weltall dice: if you want to help with balancing it join the rules team it’s more effective
(18:46:50) Gilrond dice: Those aren’t PPs
(18:47:14) Gilrond dice: Pps are progression points (just not to be confused)
(18:47:25) Heolion dice: it would be very helpful to know the exact amount of pratice points
(18:47:42) Gilrond dice: OK, I’ll think about that.
(18:47:43) Weltall dice: it’s always 1
(18:47:47) Gilrond dice: Yep
(18:47:55) Gilrond dice: And that’s not very reasonable
(18:48:03) Gilrond dice: I posted a bug about it
(18:48:09) Keella dice: weltall could you tell us what is new with the 0.5.7?
(18:48:14) Gilrond dice: But didn’t get any feed back from the settings team
(18:48:52) Weltall dice: that’s not setting team and as i’ve said right now is doing npcclient functionalities
(18:49:26) Gilrond dice: Oh, I meant rules team
(18:50:19) Weltall dice: as for 0.5.7 updates artside there is guildoja
(18:50:25) Gilrond dice: Thanks, I’ll try to contact them more directly
(18:50:27) Weltall dice: normal maps in various maps including this
(18:51:00) Weltall dice: arena got a reduction of sectors (which could make npc behave better and depending on the hw improve performance)
(18:51:16) Weltall dice: a robe for nolthrir and klyros
(18:51:40) Weltall dice: various fixes around in the art (including npcroom2)
(18:51:51) Gilrond dice: Any new effects for spells?
(18:51:53) Tuux dice: lot of magic effect
(18:51:58) Tuux dice: yes a lot
(18:52:02) Gilrond dice: Oh, great Tuux! Thanks
(18:52:24) Weltall dice: take all buttons for containers
(18:52:38) Gilrond dice: Very useful
(18:52:39) Ylox dice: nice
(18:52:41) Weltall dice: (who built his own client had that for 2 months)
(18:53:00) Weltall dice: various npcclient fixes
(18:53:17) Weltall dice: expansion of loot tables which should allow rules to balance it more in future
(18:53:37) Weltall dice: (with fine tuning of random name % and item amount)
(18:54:16) Kesila dice: hi weltall, hi tuux – i noticed that the crystal way robe does not show up when you put it on – is there a plan to fix that?
(18:54:20) Weltall dice: a reduction of dependencies from system libraries for linux and probably macosx
(18:54:50) Weltall dice: it will show when it will be available for your race
(18:55:05) Kesila dice: sorry should have specified….on my main, an enki, it does not show up
(18:55:19) Kesila dice: so it’s not available for the enkidukai?
(18:55:26) Weltall dice: as far as i know no
(18:55:43) Kesila dice: I see
(18:56:03) Weltall dice: several fixes on the interface with also crash fixes on that side
(18:56:05) Tuux dice: normaly the robe is not done, it’s a lot of work peer robe
(18:56:19) Weltall dice: now it’s possible to change tooltips appearance
(18:56:57) Gilrond dice: So update from the downloadable release is supposed to work now?
(18:57:25) Weltall dice: it will work when talad finishes uploading
(18:57:32) Gilrond dice: OK, thanks
(18:57:35) Weltall dice: these fixes are available also for who built the client
(18:57:46) Weltall dice: ./mount is now a toogle
(18:58:07) Weltall dice: some crash fixes on npc camera
(18:58:30) Weltall dice: emote commands are now accessible from /emote emotename and can be hidden from the main domain of commands
(18:58:39) Weltall dice: on screen messages can be disabled
(18:59:13) Weltall dice: improved sorting in some windows, it’s now possible to change attack stance by defining going up or down in level of stance
(19:00:34) Weltall dice: various linked libraries were updated to upstream
(19:01:32) Weltall dice: empaty should work again
(19:01:42) Kesila cheers
(19:02:22) Weltall dice: npc can now edit books of others
(19:02:24) Weltall dice: *gm
(19:02:50) Gilrond dice: Good that empathy was fixed
(19:02:51) Weltall dice: i think that’s all on the biggest things
(19:03:53) Weltall dice: well if there is anything else i think that’s all
(19:04:06) Ylox dice: a nice list
(19:04:18) Keella dice: looks like a lot of work, thank you
(19:04:33) Kesila dice: thanks weltall
(19:04:33) Weltall dice: np
(19:05:04) Weltall dice: ok see you in two weeks then bye
(19:05:10) Zarre dice: Thanks to all who work behind the scenes in PS
(19:05:19) Tuux dice: bye bye
(19:05:45) Gilrond dice: Thanks
dom 19-giu-2011 22:05:22 Weltall
(22:05:22) Weltall dice: hi everyone welcome
(22:05:43) Chays dice: Heya
(22:05:47) Perlan bows to everyone as he enters
(22:06:04) Perlan takes a place at the counter to be first
(22:06:06) Perlan dice: hehe
(22:06:11) Weltall dice: as for starting announcements i’d point out to update to 0.5.7.1 even more on linux or if you’ve freeze issues
(22:06:17) Weltall dice: if it doesn’t update repair
(22:06:59) Perlan dice: hey firke, mishka, mrokii, rheos, kaipaber, heolion
(22:07:12) Perlan bows to the DEVS and GM
(22:07:13) Weltall dice: now those interested in doing questions please get behind perlan
(22:07:15) Habenar dice: I crash more now after 0.5.7.1
(22:07:35) Weltall dice: the build is the same with just a little fix
(22:07:42) Perlan dice: oh, hey merivo too
(22:09:03) Weltall dice: ok what is it perlan?
(22:09:33) Perlan dice: hello sir, and laides, my questions and remarks will be of the severe kind today, and i apoligize in advance
(22:09:37) Perlan dice: *ladies
(22:09:59) Perlan dice: so, let’s fire the first
(22:10:20) Perlan dice: you want diversity in characters in this game
(22:10:41) Perlan dice: yet, our economy forces most people to mine and work with ores
(22:10:51) Perlan dice: so, my question is this
(22:11:10) Perlan dice: do you think the loot chance will be increased again, to have more diversity in chars
(22:11:23) Perlan dice: so they can have a better way to earn their bread?
(22:11:38) Perlan dice: instead of having to process ores..
(22:11:41) Gilrond dice: Hunters are second after smiths anyway…
(22:12:04) Weltall dice: except the fact i don’t see that loot changes “diversity”
(22:12:05) Aramara nods at gilrond
(22:12:15) Perlan dice: there are several old players here that know the loot chance was some time different
(22:12:20) Dirrluwrra dice: bakers and other jobs even have it worse
(22:12:25) Weltall dice: except if you take up the “show off” practices which is borderline for an rp server
(22:12:29) Gilrond dice: Alchemy and more crafts would be better
(22:12:31) Weltall dice: yes loot rules will be revised soon
(22:12:42) Perlan dice: there are also several new players here that have a very hard time to progress
(22:12:50) Aramara dice: I agree with gilrond on this one
(22:12:58) Perlan dice: alright, and i addition to that question\
(22:13:02) Weltall dice: i’ve said it plenty of time
(22:13:03) Perlan dice: *in
(22:13:07) Merivo dice: I myself am a warrior and I mine to earn trias to train
(22:13:10) Weltall dice: someone has to write those they don’t get done alone
(22:13:19) Perlan dice: the so called “loot” weapons… they still work?
(22:13:26) Weltall dice: even sw is still trying to work on the leather working
(22:14:11) Dirrluwrra dice: The loot rules and stuff, is that part of the economy manager? in other words, will that be done after GSOC is finished?
(22:14:27) Perlan dice: excuse me, i am having the word, sir
(22:14:27) Weltall dice: gsoc doesn’t have economy manager projects
(22:16:20) Weltall dice: ok as there is nothing else i’d go with the next
(22:16:30) Perlan dice: so, these loot weapon, do they still work, that is my additionol question
(22:16:40) Weltall dice: always worked why?
(22:16:41) Perlan dice: heck, i don’t care, i will show them
(22:17:05) Gilrond dice: Looting special weapons?
(22:17:14) Perlan dice: if these work, the loot chance is very very bad
(22:17:30) Perlan dice: just my two cents, and thank you
(22:17:43) Masaro dice: Not true. While low, I’ve looted a bunch of such items, and so have my friends recently
(22:17:58) Gilrond dice: I didn’t really notice a difference. It’s fluctuating
(22:18:03) Arcon stands next to beard guy
(22:18:11) Chays dice: Loot’s always seemed to come in “waves”.
(22:18:14) Aramara dice: Hello, and first off, thanks for all of your hard work so far
(22:18:16) Chays dice: They’re just smaller now.
(22:18:21) Gilrond nods to Chays
(22:18:24) Perlan dice: some say “bones” do the same, but i have yet to find out
(22:18:35) Perlan dice: i got several for ppl interested btw
(22:18:56) Mishka dice: Please let the player ask their question.
(22:19:00) Weltall dice: it’s random numbers you can’t be sure what they hit
(22:19:11) Aramara dice: I would like to know the state of progress made towards completing all the character race models, for i think that is crucial for immersive RP
(22:19:55) Mishka dice: and as Talad suggested try to write your questions in a shortcut to make things go faster
(22:20:01) Weltall dice: right now no models are in the works
(22:20:33) Aramara dice: hmm
(22:20:35) Weltall dice: nearest tasks in that area will be nolthrir male and klyros female
(22:20:51) Gilrond dice: Any ETA?
(22:20:54) Weltall dice: no
(22:21:16) Aramara dice: ok, thanks again
(22:21:19) Weltall dice: only who is doing it knows the ETA
(22:21:23) Perlan dice: [i am sure wanting to design those, but i am assigned to an architecture thing, lol]
(22:21:48) Weltall dice: they are already designed it needs a 3d modeler
(22:21:54) Perlan dice: cool
(22:21:55) Weltall dice: and the biggest issue an animator
(22:22:08) Weltall dice: didn’t you check the main site in the last 5 years
(22:22:27) Chays dice: Yeah…animation’s hard work and few would take on such a task for free.
(22:22:52) Tuux dice: almost all is hard work
(22:23:09) Chays dice: Indeed.
(22:23:26) Mishka forgot the question…
(22:23:31) Merivo dice: in regards to chain quests…are you planning on shortening the size of the chains in the near future? or changing the existing chains in some way? Since I’ve had such difficulty with them
(22:24:13) Merivo dice: perhaps improve the intelligence of the NPC’s responses to help with them
(22:24:49) Aramara dice: or give some sort of guidance as to which quests lead to which
(22:25:06) Aramara dice: it’s a blind shoot right now
(22:25:08) Weltall dice: it wouldn’t really make sense in all cases
(22:25:10) Gilrond dice: Yes, especially if some are broken like Trasok’s special axe
(22:25:24) Weltall dice: if they are broken you report them in the bugtracker
(22:25:39) Chays dice: Haven’t checked the winch doors in a while, but I assume they still say ‘talk to Raithen’ and Raithen won’t talk to most of my characters.
(22:25:40) Drjack dice: as much as I know there’s no plan to shorten chain quest
(22:25:41) Perlan dice: if i may.. i think no one knows the quest lines of the winch
(22:26:05) Merivo dice: it took me 60-70 quests to acquire winch access…that sounds reasonable to you?
(22:26:08) Drjack dice: I confirm we’re checking them to see if there are some block if any quest had no clue to how to proceed
(22:26:32) Perlan dice: there are people that done over 200 quests and don’t know
(22:26:43) Mishka remembered the question!
(22:26:49) Perlan is not kidding
(22:26:53) Merivo dice: I had a lot of guidance with them from sites and friends…most of which were clueless
(22:27:10) Drjack dice: I know about these issues about these chain quest only thanks to you players
(22:27:10) Weltall dice: there are people who did 300
(22:27:24) Mishka dice: It was a bit hard for me to figure out the quest line to get Ukabnu to talk to one of my alts.
(22:27:26) Chays dice: A few hints IG would be great so we don’t have to go spoiler hunting.
(22:27:30) Perlan dice: yes, but no one can tell which are required for winch
(22:27:30) Drjack dice: I suggest to create something to accorpoate all of these critiques
(22:27:45) Drjack dice: so we of the Setting team can talk about it
(22:27:54) Drjack dice: I think that’s a primary issue
(22:27:56) Merivo dice: if the exact quests required are in character, at least have the NPCs give us hints or directions to what might help gain their trust
(22:27:58) Chays dice: Sounds like a solid idea.
(22:27:59) Mishka dice: Maybe more settings developers? I’m still waiting for my application to be approved…
(22:28:09) Aramara dice: can you set up a forum thread perhaps?
(22:28:15) Gilrond dice: Does settings team check the bug tracker at all?
(22:28:27) Perlan dice: of course they do, gilrond
(22:28:28) Drjack dice: one question at a time, plz
(22:28:41) Weltall dice: there is Drjack who is a setting dev
(22:28:43) Gilrond dice: That’s good
(22:28:51) Drjack dice: 1) I recruited 3 prospect, but seems they went away
(22:28:58) Drjack dice: It’s not easy to find good ones
(22:29:17) Drjack dice: 2) no, Mishka, I didn’t see your application, last time I checked was 1 months ago
(22:29:39) Mishka dice: check again lol, it’s not older than a week. Talad said he was going to check it himself
(22:29:45) Drjack dice: 3) as much as I know I’m the only one checking bugtracker
(22:30:10) Drjack dice: my primiry issue now is rectruiting
(22:30:22) Drjack dice: 4) yes, the forum is ok to gather all the critiques
(22:30:28) Mishka raises a paw and hops “Me! Me! Recruit me!”
(22:30:40) Perlan looks annoyed
(22:30:42) Heolion laughs
(22:30:44) Chays dice: lol Mishka
(22:30:45) Aramara dice: what kind of person are you looking to recruit?
(22:30:48) Perlan dice: oh, did i say that oult loud
(22:30:59) Perlan dice: oops
(22:31:13) Heolion dice: [ laughing for Mishka ]
(22:31:16) Drjack dice: people who knows about games and about fiction, but, more, people who seems serious and want to continue
(22:31:36) Drjack dice: I mean, some durability
(22:31:43) Drjack dice: many comes and go away
(22:32:05) Merivo waits patiently for a response
(22:32:12) Drjack dice: I’m also trying to call back some of the old team members
(22:32:21) Drjack dice: just to have someone with experience in PS
(22:32:24) Mishka dice: Good luck trying to get XilliX back in LOL
(22:32:44) Drjack dice: I was talking about katu
(22:32:52) Arcon dice: i really think that devs should have some PS experience
(22:32:57) Drjack dice: he came back, I hope he will remain
(22:33:11) Drjack dice: and I hope for the return of aleena too
(22:33:13) Weltall dice: new people don’t become dev immediately there is prospecthood before
(22:33:17) Perlan wonders what Merivo wants to know to have his question answered, and bows to the one standing in line
(22:33:37) Merivo dice: are you planning anything in regards to the chain quests?
(22:34:04) Drjack dice: yeah, talking to Talad
(22:34:08) Aramara thought that WAS answered
(22:34:15) Drjack dice: he knows them better
(22:34:49) Drjack dice: and, as I said, the more opinions you will send, the more we have feedback to decide
(22:35:19) Aramara dice: i’ll look into applying
(22:35:58) Mishka dice: Irec y u no clap for me
(22:36:00) Perlan dice: ahem
(22:36:06) Irec dice: awwww
(22:36:12) Mishka dice: xD
(22:36:18) Perlan dice: i think this question is answered, no?
(22:36:30) Merivo dice: I wasn’t aware of this
(22:36:44) Perlan dice: lady, gent
(22:37:03) Irec dice: (Dr)
(22:37:13) Perlan dice: i was told by rlydontknow himself when the way quests came out to not master anything yet…
(22:37:32) Perlan dice: later i was not onlly told that there would be a shadowcaster way
(22:37:40) Perlan dice: but also an opposite way of that
(22:37:52) Perlan dice: i am full adept in all ways
(22:38:05) Drjack dice: that’s seems confuse affirmations
(22:38:09) Perlan dice: and i hear zhaomal babble about the shadowcasters in each way
(22:38:20) Perlan dice: so, my question is this
(22:38:28) Drjack dice: about the shadowcasters, currently, they’re not implemented
(22:38:40) Gilrond dice: Better master something…
(22:38:41) Perlan dice: are the shadowcaster quests gonna be implemented, and the oposite way>?
(22:38:56) Weltall dice: sometimes in the future
(22:39:01) Perlan dice: no gilrond, to mastr something means you cannot do that path
(22:39:02) Weltall dice: -s
(22:39:03) Arcon dice: soon ™
(22:39:15) Gilrond dice: If that path is years ahead – it’s up to you
(22:39:16) Arcon laughs
(22:39:24) Tuux dice: i have a peace of response
(22:39:37) Tuux dice: at time lot of work is done arround magic
(22:39:45) Tuux dice: but it’s not finish
(22:39:53) Tuux dice: it’s clearly not finish
(22:39:56) Perlan dice: so, will the opposite path of sahdowcasters be implemented too, or is that just make-belief?
(22:40:15) Perlan dice: the path where they have 4 glyph combinations?
(22:40:22) Perlan dice: i was told this by rlydontknow
(22:40:49) Drjack dice: Perlan, we’re deciding what to do with shadowcasters, Talad think they had some issues in their background
(22:41:17) Perlan dice: and if you say soon(tm) does that mean no one should naster any way.. since most people i know have
(22:41:23) Perlan dice: *master
(22:41:31) Drjack dice: I don’t say “soon”
(22:41:33) Perlan dice: i mean, i don’t mastering all ways
(22:41:53) Perlan dice: but i would hate it if i miss out on alternate ways
(22:42:06) Perlan dice: and also for the ppl that mastered something
(22:42:22) Weltall dice: i’ve said sometime in the future
(22:42:24) Weltall dice: not soon
(22:42:24) Perlan dice: does it mean they can never do the shadowcster path, or its opposite?
(22:42:30) Aramara dice: ou should only master something if it fits your character
(22:42:38) Weltall dice: we can’t know that till it’s done
(22:42:50) Gilrond dice: So it’s all seems undecided yet
(22:42:59) Chays dice: And even then…ICly, it ought to take quite a while. Your sixteen year old character is unlikely to be a master. >>
(22:43:05) Weltall dice: it’s like asking will man go to another galaxy in the next century?
(22:43:29) Perlan dice: i beg to differ since a certain zhaomal speaks of this path
(22:43:39) Perlan dice: and all archmages too
(22:43:43) Mishka dice: Yeah, same goes to people having 5 year old characters who are already master duelists >.>
(22:43:43) Emmara shrugs, “Last I remember this game is in beta, so things are subject to change as the devs feel necessary. There are no obsolutes at this point.”
(22:43:44) Aramara dice: it’ll take more than a century to get to the nearest galaxy
(22:43:45) Gilrond dice: That’s my question actually
(22:43:52) Weltall dice: i beg to differ that this is a game in development things can be changed any time
(22:43:58) Perlan dice: sure
(22:44:15) Drjack dice: also here, create a topic or something where I can show your feedback to other setting members
(22:44:22) Perlan dice: but it is relevant to know for players if mastering has consequences, don’t you think?
(22:44:53) Perlan dice: since a shadowcaster canot master anything, he will not be allowed
(22:45:14) Perlan dice: therefor the relevance if this question
(22:45:16) Weltall dice: what brings you mastering a way?
(22:45:17) Tuux dice: perlan at time we work a lot arround magic, and after we have to implement and maintain
(22:45:21) Weltall dice: just an item
(22:45:25) Tuux dice: that long process
(22:45:42) Gilrond dice: itmes – rare glyphs
(22:45:46) Gilrond dice: *items
(22:45:48) Perlan dice: no weltall, i miss out on glyphs atm, since i can’t proceed
(22:45:51) Weltall dice: you can buy them from others
(22:46:01) Gilrond dice: No, not the most rare ones
(22:46:06) Perlan dice: no, since those masters hang on to them
(22:46:09) Gilrond dice: You won’t find them
(22:46:09) Aramara dice: only if they’re willing to sell
(22:46:22) Perlan dice: and for them…
(22:46:27) Merivo dice: may I offer an alternative question to solve the same issue?
(22:46:39) Perlan dice: if something isn’t reset, they can never do the shadowcaster’s path
(22:46:50) Weltall dice: if you wish i can wipe your char anytime
(22:46:51) Perlan dice: snice they mastered something
(22:46:55) Sarva dice: I think it is MIshka’s turn now.
(22:47:00) Aramara dice: so create a new character who can
(22:47:13) Merivo dice: [ easier said than done Aramara ]
(22:47:14) Perlan dice: ok, wait and see, i got my answer
(22:47:21) Perlan dice: thank you
(22:47:22) Gilrond dice: With current progression balance – it’s a pain Aramara
(22:47:32) Heolion nods
(22:47:43) Mishka dice: Hello there.
(22:47:44) Merivo dice: with Gilrond*
(22:48:01) Mishka dice: Has anyone picked up the family project in GSoC? I’d like to see other kind of marriages such as same gender, for example.
(22:48:25) Weltall dice: no one even proposed it
(22:48:33) Mishka dice: ._.
(22:48:52) Mishka mumbles and mutters while going back to her seat
(22:48:52) Weltall dice: but didn’t you read the site? gsoc plans are decided upon start you can’t stray from them
(22:49:01) Perlan dice: er, i blieve dannae and ixi are getting married
(22:49:20) Perlan dice: it isn’t possible with mechanics?
(22:49:25) Dirrluwrra dice: karrt and his boyfriend too
(22:49:25) Mishka dice: Sincerely, the site is such a mess I don’t know where to start and where to hold.
(22:49:36) Mishka dice: That’s why I’m asking, Karrt is my alt.
(22:49:39) Aramara dice: don’t tell the octarchy perlan
(22:49:51) Perlan dice: we are ooc here, amara
(22:49:51) Weltall dice: the news
(22:49:54) Mishka dice: It isn’t even prohibited by the law
(22:50:19) Emmara dice: This is an old old topic. The staff has never stopped an RP marriage of the same sex, but the staff has posted old threads that this is not a topic they have wanted to broach. Unless DrJack has new input.
(22:50:23) Weltall dice: svn logs and gsoc website
(22:50:30) Weltall dice: search atomic blue
(22:50:33) Mishka dice: I will
(22:50:52) Weltall dice: and we will never get on the topic
(22:50:59) Gilrond dice: Hello. Firstly thanks for the new updates, especially the magic effects
(22:51:00) Mishka pokes Drjack “Can we talk later on IRC, please? If you have some time”
(22:51:07) Tuux dice:
(22:51:10) Weltall dice: the implementation proposal mishka is referring to abstracts it so we don’t have to care about it
(22:51:11) Emmara dice: Feel free to search the forums Mishka. I’ve been around long enought o see this topic constantly turn into a battle of RL religious beliefs and ethics.
(22:51:31) Weltall dice: but it requires a dev
(22:51:33) Gilrond dice: I wanted to point few things regarding the chained quests too
(22:51:36) Weltall dice: willing to commit to doing it
(22:51:44) Drjack dice: Yes, Mishka
(22:51:45) Weltall dice: an engine dev
(22:51:51) Mishka dice: Thanks
(22:52:10) Gilrond dice: Right now it seems that settings team is often out of sync with the rest of the devs
(22:52:21) Drjack dice: no new input, Emmara
(22:52:28) Gilrond dice: I.e. lot’s of quests mention stuff which is defunct or isn’t even implemented
(22:52:34) Gilrond dice: Can you avoid that somehow?
(22:52:41) Heolion nods to Gilrond
(22:52:48) Gilrond dice: That’s very confusing and frustrating
(22:52:53) Mishka dice: it should be the other way around, the other teams should depend on settings
(22:53:01) Heolion dice: like some spells
(22:53:04) Arcon nods
(22:53:06) Weltall dice: disagreed
(22:53:13) Gilrond dice: They main point – they should be in sync somehow
(22:53:18) Aramara agrees with Mishka
(22:53:24) Gilrond dice: Whoever depends on another
(22:53:26) Weltall dice: art is more complex to do than settings
(22:53:53) Aramara dice: complexity isn’t the issue, the art should be based on settings
(22:53:58) Mishka dice: This is an MMORPG with focus on the roleplaying ambiance. Art only contributes to make this 3D chatroom prettier
(22:54:12) Gilrond dice: I mean like missing spells for example
(22:54:25) Gilrond dice: Quests do reference them still
(22:54:43) Arcon dice: this is not a chatroom
(22:54:53) Heolion dice: ?
(22:54:53) Perlan dice: in the quest line i have found many missing spells too
(22:54:56) Mishka dice: No, for PLers it’s not a chatroom.
(22:55:02) Gilrond dice: I assume that if the quest uses soemthing – it should be IG
(22:55:08) Gilrond dice: But often it’s not
(22:55:35) Perlan dice: ,ishka, you grins smithing all day, so don’t be a hypocrite
(22:55:42) Gilrond dice: Just try to keep this stuff in sync somehow please
(22:55:44) Perlan dice: *mishka, you grind
(22:56:02) Merivo dice: I think this is something we can take responsibility for ourselves
(22:56:12) Mishka dice: Perlan, you’re the biggest grinder of all. I don’t think you’re anyone to tell me off when I’m RPing being a blacksmith. I RP at least 10 times more than you do.
(22:56:21) Gilrond dice: The second question is about the progression balance
(22:56:23) Merivo dice: like a list of quests which are broken…perhaps even ingame as an ooc book
(22:56:24) Chays dice: Ideally, it would be an experience that combines the levelling with the roleplay in a way that makes teh lhe lefelling tolerable.
(22:56:32) Perlan dice: i never denied i both RP and PL, mishka
(22:56:35) Heolion dice: can we listen an answer to Gilrond please
(22:56:42) Gilrond dice: I already posted a bug about it, but didn’t get any resposne from the settings dev
(22:56:43) Heolion dice: and not other stuff
(22:56:54) Chays dice: And Mishka, Perlan, this is Q&A, not a flame war.
(22:57:01) Mishka dice: I didn’t start it.
(22:57:08) Weltall dice: you both it
(22:57:09) Weltall dice: did
(22:57:10) Weltall dice: period
(22:57:12) Merivo dice: lol Perlan
(22:57:12) Aramara dice: nd it
(22:57:14) Weltall dice: case closed
(22:57:17) Gilrond dice: Can you stop the offtopic please?
(22:57:21) Aramara dice: *end
(22:57:23) Chays dice: *the levelling
(22:57:45) Weltall dice: it’s again for Drjack
(22:58:31) Drjack dice: I’m checking the bugtracker, but if you set it for setting we had a delay
(22:58:38) Gilrond dice: Did you have a chance to look at it Drjack?
(22:58:47) Drjack dice: I was away for two weeks
(22:58:53) Gilrond dice: I can give you the bug # afterwards
(22:59:16) Drjack dice: and we were already full of issues
(22:59:21) Gilrond dice: I think it’ll help the training to be less boring
(22:59:29) Gilrond dice: And more reasonable
(22:59:39) Drjack dice: is that a balance question, balance in what?
(22:59:47) Gilrond dice: Balance in progression rate
(23:00:03) Gilrond dice: I.e. right now you get 1 practice point for any action
(23:00:07) Drjack dice: I know we’ve a progression issues in gold, is that? or is about quest difficulty?
(23:00:12) Gilrond dice: No matter what you do
(23:00:17) Gilrond dice: No
(23:00:23) Gilrond dice: That’s about practice points
(23:00:35) Gilrond dice: I proposed to make that rated
(23:00:46) Drjack dice: that’s a levelling issue so?
(23:00:47) Gilrond dice: I.e. for more advanced stuff you should get more practice points
(23:00:50) Gilrond dice: Yes
(23:01:11) Aramara dice: for crafting?
(23:01:12) Drjack dice: I can check it, but I suppose I need the Rules team opinion on that
(23:01:17) Gilrond dice: Not only crafting
(23:01:21) Gilrond dice: Any practice
(23:01:42) Weltall dice: again this is a topic which has already been talked about the last time
(23:01:45) Gilrond dice: What is consinder more advanced should give more practice points
(23:01:49) Heolion dice: that would be nice for cooking too… for complex recipes
(23:01:55) Weltall dice: bringing the same thing each time is of no use
(23:02:17) Chays dice: That’d be almost every recipe…cooking’s annoying.
(23:02:17) Weltall dice: when the rules devs will get to it they will see what to do
(23:02:21) Gilrond dice: May be, but I didn’t see any feedback or opinions from devs so far
(23:02:23) Irec dice: it seems like most of the players want this…
(23:02:25) Weltall dice: they don’t need the help of engine to fix it
(23:02:29) Gilrond dice: On the bug tracker at least
(23:02:51) Irec dice: and imo it makes sense too
(23:02:53) Weltall dice: well people are busy with finals, correcting finals, vacations, work etc
(23:03:19) Weltall dice: and wining is quite useless when there isn’t a workforce
(23:03:19) Gilrond dice: Alright, thanks. I’ll give the bug # to Drjack
(23:03:30) Drjack dice: ok
(23:03:46) Perlan dice: hello again
(23:04:16) Mrokii dice: So wining is useful, when there *are* workforces, Weltall?
(23:04:18) Perlan dice: i habe question regarding the dlayo pit, i wasn’t present last week
(23:04:26) Weltall dice: no
(23:04:38) Perlan dice: the dlayo pit borders are severely messed
(23:04:49) Weltall dice: but if it traslates in them it might be better but then it’s not wining anymore
(23:05:02) Perlan dice: can they be like they were before with some simple measures and be done with it?
(23:05:20) Weltall dice: actually they are fixed in cords now
(23:05:30) Perlan dice: like they used to be?
(23:05:34) Mishka dice: is it fixed in game, Weltall?
(23:05:37) Weltall dice: before it was two triangles now it’s what it should have been
(23:05:39) Weltall dice: yes
(23:05:43) Mishka dice: awesome
(23:05:45) Perlan dice: good, thank you
(23:05:46) Weltall dice: a parallelogram
(23:06:04) Aramara applauds getting things done
(23:06:09) Merivo dice: lol
(23:06:10) Perlan dice: a certain event had severe problems with it
(23:06:25) Mishka dice: I remember you showing the data in IRC, it was pretty messed up and had a simple fix. Incredible how something so small can cause such a big problem
(23:06:41) Perlan dice: an event i don’t get GM allow it btw, but that is another sotry
(23:06:48) Perlan dice: *story
(23:06:59) Perlan dice: alright good, great!
(23:07:10) Weltall dice: ok i think that’s all have a nice day and week everyone
(23:07:19) Arcon dice: thank you
(23:07:24) Tuux dice: thanks
(23:07:24) Aramara dice: thank you!
(23:07:29) Pentrian dice: thank you for your time
(23:07:31) Perlan dice: do others have questions, since if not i wlll stand next in line after myself
(23:07:39) Perlan dice: like so
(23:07:55) Perlan dice: hi!
(23:08:04) Perlan chuckles
(23:08:09) Merivo dice: another question?
(23:08:25) Weltall dice: we are out of time
(23:08:30) Perlan dice: does this server have capacity for more houses?
(23:08:43) Perlan dice: and if so, are other auctions coming?
(23:08:57) Weltall dice: the server can load up to 4 bilions houses
(23:09:08) Mishka dice: Holy carp O.O
(23:09:09) Weltall dice: no idea
(23:09:09) Perlan dice: ok, so are new auctions coming?
(23:09:13) Aramara dice: that’s almost 5 billion!
(23:09:21) Mishka dice: It’s over nyan thousand!
(23:09:24) Weltall dice: but again wasn’t this asked two times ago
(23:09:31) Irec laughs at Aramara
(23:09:32) Perlan dice: i heared rumors that ni the future even individuals can buy houses too
(23:09:33) Weltall dice: it’s called unsigned int
(23:09:44) Weltall dice: maybe it’s undecided
(23:09:57) Mishka would like to have a door for her house
(23:10:00) Mishka dice: Well, tent.
(23:10:25) Perlan listens to weltall
(23:10:32) Mrokii dice: Mishka Buy beds and build a barricade
(23:10:41) Mishka dice:
(23:11:02) Weltall dice: there isn’t much to say when they will be ready they will be auctioned asking it each dev meeting won’t get them earlier
(23:11:03) Merivo dice: once we’ve finished, perhaps a clap for the devs for all their hard work so far?
(23:11:13) Mishka dice: Especially for tuux!
(23:11:15) Weltall dice: as for those rumors well they are lies we don’t know ourselves
(23:11:16) Perlan dice: i didn’t ask this before
(23:11:23) Mishka dice: Thanks for the Blades of chaos effect, Tuuxies!
(23:11:25) Emmara nods to Merivo and claps.
(23:11:27) Weltall dice: you did at least 2 times ago
(23:11:32) Tuux dice: thanks a lot
(23:11:34) Merivo claps
(23:11:36) Perlan dice: i asked one time, and then auctions came
(23:11:38) Rheos claps
(23:11:39) Tuux dice: i have do for you all
(23:11:45) Gilrond dice: Thanks for all. And especially Tuux.
(23:11:55) Perlan dice: alright, thank you
(23:12:06) Dirrluwrra claps for the devs
(23:12:15) Chays claps
(23:12:22) Irec claps for Irec
(23:12:32) Tuux dice: thanks a lot
(23:12:34) Merivo claps for all devs
(23:12:36) Arcon dice: thanks
(23:12:49) Mrokii dice: I agree. Thanks to the devs, heh
(23:12:56) Weltall dice: bye all